Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Suggestion to stop Your target is not online
Alristico
Fri Oct 01, 2004 9:20 am
#14
spooniemate wrote:
Schiller wrote:
most jedi do it without being aware of this exploit. They just log over to their alt doc/entertainer to buff up.
ha ha ha. not true. (a) how do you buff someone who is LD or offline and (b) if it is on another account, there is no need to log off and (c) nothing like that can be achieved in the 20-30secs they are offline for. it is for one reason and one reason only. to stop BH tracking them.
very, very wrong. You can buff an alt on the same account. Just ask anyone who plays on TC where you can make 3 characters on one account and everyone makes a doc alt because you would never find a doc buffing otherwise.
When youlog your alt off you have about 2 mins to log your doc in and buff him while hes LD before you get the message 'you can't see that target'. And usually its enough time although sometimes you get the message before your done buffing (way before 2 minute mark) and you have to keep logging him on and off to reset the timer and try again. Add this to entertainer buffs and you have a jedi who logs on and off many times in a short period of time.
Some do it on purpose though imnot disputing that.
Message Edited by Alristico on 10-01-2004 12:21 PM
Alristico
Fri Oct 01, 2004 9:55 am
#15
spooniemate wrote:
yeah but my point was that they are literally out for the amount of time it takes to logout and back in... not 2 minutes. maybe you can buff and alt maybe you can't. never seen or heard of this before but that doesnt mean it doesnt happen. and also, unless they use really crappy buffs, why do they logout and back in so often? this is not happening once every 3 hours.
for example, i have he time stamp switched on and it might say something like:-
20:16:16 xxxxxx logs out
20:16:34 xxxxxx logs in
this would not be enough time to buff even with the best macro in the world allowing for logout and login times.
like i said, not all are exploiters but alot of them are.
Excuse me but you said it couldn't be done and I corrected your ignorace. Where did I say that no jedi ever exploited this bug?
Darwin151
Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:06 am
#16
I personally don't understand why they didn't link it to the same system as the friends list. When you try to launch a droid it queries the DB just like when you add someone to your friends list. Then again what do I know I've only been programming for 8 years. As far as the jedi logging in and out, i'm sure some do use this as an exploit to break the BH droids but I also know that there are legit reasons from them to do it. For example a knight (overt) cannot trade with anyone, buff, etc. if they are opposing faction so they will go LD and come back to trade or whatever. For the lower level ones that are not knight yet I don't see a good reason. I think the reason a lot of BH on the forums believe the jedi to be using logging as an exploit is because the jedi posted a "how to" on the jedi boards detailing how to cause the not online bug. It wasn't a "I've tested this and these are my results" it was a "how to keep from getting hunted by BH" post. It's up to SOE now to deal with it though.
Alristico
Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:15 am
#17
see above
Darwin151 wrote:
For the lower level ones that are not knight yet I don't see a good reason.
why would a jedi have to post a 'how to' when we could just look at all the posts complaining about it and detailing it on the bh boards?
Darwin151 wrote:
I think the reason a lot of BH on the forums believe the jedi to be using logging as an exploit is because the jedi posted a "how to" on the jedi boards detailing how to cause the not online bug. It wasn't a "I've tested this and these are my results" it was a "how to keep from getting hunted by BH" post. It's up to SOE now to deal with it though.
spooniemate
Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:20 am
#18
Alristico wrote:
spooniemate wrote:
yeah but my point was that they are literally out for the amount of time it takes to logout and back in... not 2 minutes. maybe you can buff and alt maybe you can't. never seen or heard of this before but that doesnt mean it doesnt happen. and also, unless they use really crappy buffs, why do they logout and back in so often? this is not happening once every 3 hours.
for example, i have he time stamp switched on and it might say something like:-
20:16:16 xxxxxx logs out
20:16:34 xxxxxx logs in
this would not be enough time to buff even with the best macro in the world allowing for logout and login times.
like i said, not all are exploiters but alot of them are.
Excuse me but you said it couldn't be done and I corrected your ignorace. Where did I say that no jedi ever exploited this bug?
ok. not sure the point of your post. where did i say, that you said, no jedi ever exploited this bug? i was purely reaffirming what i said with an example. i don't doubt your theory as being possible, i just doubt that it is the reason alot of jedi do this.
Darwin151
Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:23 am
#19
Well our posts are trying to get it fixed not a how to. And I did read your post above but getting buffed by your alt ect. doesn't seem like a good reason to me. There are a lot of doctors and entertainers they could get buffs from.
Darwin151
Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:27 am
#20
Plus we're not talking about the same thing. You are talking about someone logging off to get a buff every 2-3 hours where what we're talking about someone logging every 5-10 minutes consistently.
Alristico
Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:30 am
#21
this is what you said. I corrected you. Then you didn't acknowledge me and just started talking about a whole different topic when jedi log on and off really quick. I never said no jedi ever exploited this bug. Just know that some are buffing themselve because IT IS POSSIBLE
spooniemate wrote:
ha ha ha. not true. (a) how do you buff someone who is LD or offline
Alristico
Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:32 am
#22
Darwin151 wrote:
Plus we're not talking about the same thing. You are talking about someone logging off to get a buff every 2-3 hours where what we're talking about someone logging every 5-10 minutes consistently.
This is what I was responding to. Don't try to instigate anotherarguement.
spooniemate wrote:
ha ha ha. not true. (a) how do you buff someone who is LD or offline
Alristico
Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:37 am
#23
does that matter? nope. You are giving jedi a 'how to' dont blame it on a jedi. I've never seen a thread on the jedi forum about the offline bug. Maybe I just missed it but when i come here there is always one conveniently bumped to the top.
Darwin151 wrote:
Well our posts are trying to get it fixed not a how to.
don't be so ignorant. If you don't know then don't knock down the possibility that jedi may have a good reason to have doc alts. I myself dont but many jedi do for convenience. Plus if you get on the terms alot you dont' wanna get caught in a buff line at coronet or MO.
Darwin151 wrote:
And I did read your post above but getting buffed by your alt ect. doesn't seem like a good reason to me. There are a lot of doctors and entertainers they could get buffs from.
Darwin151
Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:38 am
#24
Why are you trying to make this into an arguement? Fine you're right you win.
darkstar860
Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:39 am
#25
Just my 2 credits worth....I couldnt hunt my first Jedi mission cause I kept getting the target
offline message even tho I could see they were ONLINE in the firends list.
Dropped the mission and waited a couple of days to try a different mission. This time
I tracked the Jedi successfully to his home only to find that he logged out just as I got there.
His alt is outside and tells me he didnt know I was coming so not exploiting. Ok I wasn't born
yesterday. What I want for myself and other bh's is a droid like the one in Episode Two
that can break into a house and poison, or burn or blow up or evaporate and otherwise
kill a Jedi who hides in a house! It almost worked in the movie! I feel this is a more "Star Warsy"
solution and wouldn't be all that hard to code. Otherwise, I feel its time to suspend all player
Jedi hunting...too many issues even after the most current so-called fixes. Instead, generate
NPC jedi missions that would be highly challenging and rewarding until a more workable
PVP Jedi-BH system can be worked out. Yeah I know what you're thinking and no I AM NOT
A JEDI nor do I ever aspire to be (just doing the quests for the loot!!!!)
I'm just a BH who worked hard, and honestly, so I could have the chance to hunt and likely get killed by
Jedi only to find there's no real reason to do so cause most, not all, but most are nothing but a bunch of chickens. A Giant Carron Spat has more balls.
Meano Darkstar, Radiant -have gun, will travel
Alristico
Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:49 am
#26
Alristico wrote:
Don't try to instigate anotherarguement.
copycat
Darwin151 wrote:
Why are you trying to make this into an arguement? Fine you're right you win.
I'm certainly right, you don't have to tell me and leave in a huff