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Thread: Enough Already Stop complaining about jedi with houses

Xoreshear
Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:15 am
#14






hyjaax wrote:

I am not referecing the trailer park jedi who carry houses around and drop them at the sign of a fight. I am talking about Jedi who have established residences somewhere. They should be able to sit in there and do whatever they want at any time.


I am in complete AGREEMENT that once a fight starts you shouldnt be able to drop a house and run in.


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Trailer park Jedi,


lmfao



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Mafukie
Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:23 am
#15






ThorianYork wrote:





Mafukie wrote:





hyjaax wrote:

I am not referecing the trailer park jedi who carry houses around and drop them at the sign of a fight. I am talking about Jedi who have established residences somewhere. They should be able to sit in there and do whatever they want at any time.


I am in complete AGREEMENT that once a fight starts you shouldnt be able to drop a house and run in.


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Maybe there should be a timer, like if a Jedi dropped a house he would be vulerable for 30minuites - 1hr in the house, like the BH could get in the first 30min - 1hr the house was placed....





Are you **modbot**1n Dumb? yall bounty hunters need to understand that not all missions should be a success. What if persay a jedi was decorating his house. Just because a bh comes after him that makes him have to either fight lose 3 hours of work and or logout?


this is what the devs think of that.....http://home.houston.rr.com/ramincphotos/givedamn.gif








Did you not read my post? If a jedi JUST dropped a house it should be vulnerable to break in for the first 30minuites to 1 hour how is this unacceptable?


BTW I am a Pre-Pub 9 Jedi so bite me

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TWC_DiamondBack
Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:25 am
#16






ThorianYork wrote:

Are you **modbot**1n Dumb? yall bounty hunters need to understand that not all missions should be a success. What if persay a jedi was decorating his house. Just because a bh comes after him that makes him have to either fight lose 3 hours of work and or logout?


this is what the devs think of that.....http://home.houston.rr.com/ramincphotos/givedamn.gif








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Wana do sissy stuff. go grab your alt and use him as your home decor expert. you did get a new character when you unlocked didn't you?




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master_loy
Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:30 am
#17






monkeybash wrote:

First off the DEVs wont be able to make it that afkjedi are not on the terms, 2nd picklock door break blah blah blah would make it so jedi cant go AFK.. i mean seriously you cant go afk its what the we as the BH community are asking


It gets me really mad when i tracka jedi for awhile but hes in a house, but stop whining abvout it, all of thewse new BH's want everything handed to them








yeha yeha yeah, again, post your complaints in the jedi forum with the other jedi's.

It would be nice if the jedi's like yourself would just but out. You're not a real BH.





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monkeybash
Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:54 am
#18






master_loy wrote:





monkeybash wrote:

First off the DEVs wont be able to make it that afkjedi are not on the terms, 2nd picklock door break blah blah blah would make it so jedi cant go AFK.. i mean seriously you cant go afk its what the we as the BH community are asking


It gets me really mad when i tracka jedi for awhile but hes in a house, but stop whining abvout it, all of thewse new BH's want everything handed to them








yeha yeha yeah, again, post your complaints in the jedi forum with the other jedi's.

It would be nice if the jedi's like yourself would just but out. You're not a real BH.






Heh, I've been a BH long before you,


And its true, as a BH i should work for what im doing i dont want everything handed to me, when i am on my jedi for more then 5 minutes i dont go afk in my house, i dont even log off in a house i just go LD,


And im more of a BH then you ever will be That i know, damn respec nubs



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monkeybash
Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:55 am
#19






master_loy wrote:





monkeybash wrote:

First off the DEVs wont be able to make it that afkjedi are not on the terms, 2nd picklock door break blah blah blah would make it so jedi cant go AFK.. i mean seriously you cant go afk its what the we as the BH community are asking


It gets me really mad when i tracka jedi for awhile but hes in a house, but stop whining abvout it, all of thewse new BH's want everything handed to them








yeha yeha yeah, again, post your complaints in the jedi forum with the other jedi's.

It would be nice if the jedi's like yourself would just but out. You're not a real BH.





And if BH's with jedi alts (as im pre-pub 9) or jedi with BH alts stop posting on this forum there will be 10 people here, like i said in a different post im more of a BH then jedi, i dont even bother posting on the jedi forum, there worst then the nonsense here on the BH forum



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KaWizLightingcrest
Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:07 am
#20






TWC_DiamondBack wrote:
I agree that Jedi should be able to use any and all means posible to escape. I agree that Factional bases should be a safe heaven from BH's
I agree Jedi shoudl have a place/safe heavento hide when they need to go p33 and $hi7.


I DONT AGREE with a silly little house stoping the big bad Mr bounty hunter man! what is this!


Heres how I see it.


Jedi XP loss has to go.

Houses should be a hiding place not a fortress. (hadrer to find but not impassable)

Jedi need safe heavens where all they can park their precious little glowy while they go get some smokes and a beer

Houses should not be safe heavens, its just too sissy!

Jedi safe heavens should not be a place where they can grind. just a parking lot for Jedi who want to go AFK

The FRS should be brought back and BH killing should give jedi rank ----


No let me put my armor back before you start the flame throwers


I hate whining!!!






Lol jedi have a safe place where they can grind AND hide... It's called Kashyyyk! And if any jedi start whining about getting killed, tell them they could've gone to Kashyyyk where half the jedi are anyway!


As for the houses being a fortress, I agree there should be some way to get in, but I also agree that if a house is private you should not be able to go in. To use a similar situation, if you are Imperial, you have to destroy the turrets on a base, go inside, get about 4 different professions to hack terminals, set it to self destruct, and get the hell out of there. Now, because your Imperial, wouldn't it just be easier to call down an orbital barrage from those 3 Star Destroyers that are always hovering above the planet?


The point is, the devs want (or at least try) to make the game fair for everyone. It's not fair for BH's to have to wait outside a house, but it's also not fair for a jedi to get killed while AFK, possibly going to the bathroom, walking the dog, or some other RL occurance. So there's a jedi hiding in the house? Hide outside it for a bit, minimize SWG, and go on the forums and have some fun (Not whining about the Jedi in his house).



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Dallow
Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:01 pm
#21






hyjaax wrote:

People this is getting ridiculous. I was a BH before I was a jedi. I still have a BH that I play. I mostly do NPC missions because jedi don't drop any decent loot. The complaints from people concerning jedi in houses are starting to get out of hand. Let's look at the facts:


Bounty Hunter Facts:
You choose to be a BH. You can choose to take NPC or Jedi Missions. You can choose to drop a mission at any time. You can choose to wait under cover for a jedi to come out of a house. You can choose when to fire the first shot. You can choose sit in your house and do whatever it is that pleases you as well.


Jedi Facts:

They can choose to sit in their house for any reason. They can choose to come out of private structures whenever they want. They can choose to be your content. They can choose to tell you to piss off and sit there for 3 days. They can choose to dictate the terms on which they fight you.



I don't know where it got started that hunting jedi should be a wham bam thankyou mam type of thing. First off, why would the jedi even know you were there. Did you send him a tell asking him to come out? Ask yourself what kind of BH you are if your mark even knows you are there.


There will never be a way to make ANY player come out of a private house. And there shouldnt be for the same reason that no one can walk into a public building and pick stuff up. Why can't I take the couch in theed cantina. Why can't I steal a Lambda shuttle parked at the starport. Why cant I steal a jubilee wheel from the hotel. Hey, why can't I go into YOUR HOUSE and steal whatever it is that you hold dear that is displayed there. IT'S A FREAKIN GAME PEOPLE!!


Does it make sense that vehicles drop from the sky? Does it make sense that HUGE creatures jump mysteriously out of nowhere from 1 foot piles of rocks? Does it make sense that when you kill someone in the DWB you can't strip their armor off of them and put it on yourself? NONE OF IT MAKES SENSE.


JUST FLIPPING ACCEPT THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WILL, AND ALWAYS WILL BE SAFE IN THEIR PRIVATE HOMES AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO CHANGE IT. YOU DO HAVE THE CHOICE TO DROP THE MISSION AND MOVE ON!


Hyjaax






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I don't know how or when this became such a big issue for us. Almost every other post is about house-hiding jedi. I've said this in multiple threads, but how hard is it to drop the frickin' mission and pick up a new one? What did you lose, 10 minutes? Come on, people, patience is part of being a BH. Of all the issues in this game, you want to push for some new system that detects whether or not a jedi is in a structure? How successful do you think that would be? How many bugs/exploits would this spawn?


And for those that think we should be able to break into a private structure, well, uh, come on! You all have to remember that there are real people playing our content. Yes, they've accepted forced PvP by becoming a jedi, but must we keep demanding more and more of them?





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Nohoah
Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:44 pm
#22

First let me aplogize for being a Jedi butting into a BH thread.


Further more before I get started let me say:


YesI go into private structures, just happens that I'm a Guild Leader and Mayor so sometimes I need to send out emails to the guild/citizens or have discussions with people and I like to do this without the possibilty of being interrupted.


I do alot of tanking and grinding withmy guildmates and we have someone carry a house around so when we are finished with a lair the Jedi can run into the house channel their force back and wait for their health to build back up - this prevents the Jedi from being a 'one hit kill' for a Bounty Hunter, as soon as everyone has their health built back up, the house comes back up and we move on to the next lair. We NEVER have the house down before the lair is popped.


IF I happen to be in a private structure and if I happen to see a bounty hunter out side, I'll be happy to run out and play with 'em, I've been fully templated since before the CU so I'm always up for some fun.


IF I happen to be in a private strucutre and if I dont notice a BH come into the city, often they will send me a tell and ask me if I ever plan on coming out, I'll respond with 'Sure give me a minute to wrap up what I'm doing and I'll be right out' - I've gotten alot of good responses out of this and it seems most of the Bounty Hunters are suprised when I actually come out.


Something I keep hearing is 'It wastes the time of a Bounty Hunter to find a Jedi AFK in their house'


Ok...so let's think about this.


I'm using high end numbers for the benefit of the doubt.


Grab a BH mission, run to the informant, launch a probe droid, wait for the probe to land give it the bio sig. If you are walking and not on a ride of some sort we'll say this takes 10 minutes, (I can go through this process in less than 5)


So now you have the planet jump to the planet....buy a ticket, go wait for the shuttle (For a minute tops) and boom you are on the planet...oh wait, have JTL, no waiting needed, boom your on the planet...so we'll say 5 minutes.


Ctrl - V locate the city the Jedi is in, buy a ticket, and boom your at the city - 5 minutes.


By the time you land in the city you should get a updated waypoint to where the Jedi is, oh they are in a private structure, you can either hang out for a few mins or hold off until they come out, personally I wouldn't wait more than 5 minutes before sending them a tell asking if they are going to come out. so we'll say 8 minutes


So the timethat was 'wasted' was 28 minutes- we all know this is a very high estimate.


How long do you think it takes the Jedi to make up the experience they lost? The 'Wasted time' arguement is silly.


Now I can see how it could be annoying for a BH to find a Jediin a house with a afk response of 'hahahaha' or something silly, But the point is, drop the mission, go grab another one. If you happen to find a Jedi in a house shoot 'em a tell and ask if they will come out and play. Just remember there is real life person behind the toon your are hunting, treat them with a little bit of respect and you might get some respect back. - Hopefully this isn't just wishful thinking on my part.




Thats all I have to say about that, again sorry for intruding

Darkknight109
Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:09 pm
#23





master_loy wrote:

This is an issue that the BH would like solved. I would like to thank all the Jedi who took the time out to come into the BH forums and tell us how we should play and what we should be aloud to do but all and all this is our profession and we will push the issues that we want. Some form of house eject or pick lock or not having afk jedi listed on the terms is what we're asking and we're not going to let this issue die until it is solved.



Again thanks but I think we can handle out own profession without your input.






This is the Bounty Hunter Forums, not the Jedi complaint Forum, you really have no reason nor room to post here


So long as YOUR profession affects OUR profession, there will always be a healthy dose of Jedi on these forums. Get used to it. In the debates about removal of Jedi XP loss, I know plenty of BH that have posted their two cents. And they have the right to do so, as it (minorly) affects their profession. This affects ours (and also will never happen, but that's another topic altogether...)


Lol jedi have a safe place where they can grind AND hide... It's called Kashyyyk! And if any jedi start whining about getting killed, tell them they could've gone to Kashyyyk where half the jedi are anyway!


Please point me to a preferably non-NPC spawn on Kashyyyk that I can solo as a level 68 not full template Jedi in a decent amount of time with a decent XP yield where no BH, however persistant, will be able to reach me.


The way I see it is, if the Jedi have no XP loss that they wouldn't try to fight back as hard and just let you kill them so they can continue their grind. So it would be a more unenjoyable experience for the bounty hunter and they might as well just do NPC missions.


I disagree... maybe grinding Jedi would not fight as hard (I would fight hard just for the practice, albeit I likelywouldn't be using any of my consumables), but hey, you really don't get that great of a fight out of a non-full temp anyways. Once the FRS comes back in, assuming we still get FRS points for BH kills, Knights will be more than happy to give you the hunt and PvP you so greatly desire.






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InspGadgt
Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:16 pm
#24






monkeybash wrote:

If the Jedi is in his house thats your problem not his stop complaining about and do 1 of 2 things


1. Stalk like a Real BH is suppose to do

Good idea in theory...however we spend more time with real life then we do logged into the game. There's no way to effectively stake out someone in a structure because of the large percentage of the day you will be away from the stake out.

2. Drop the mission



Also get Intel to see if the jedi your hunting likes to be AFK in a house for hours...









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Just4MOnths
Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:18 pm
#25

ok im a jedi ..gimme one reason to fight u guys??? if i loose i loose xp..ok i dont complain about it ... if i win..i get...oh wait.... nothing >.<
monkeybash
Wed Oct 12, 2005 5:43 pm
#26






InspGadgt wrote:





monkeybash wrote:

If the Jedi is in his house thats your problem not his stop complaining about and do 1 of 2 things


1. Stalk like a Real BH is suppose to do

Good idea in theory...however we spend more time with real life then we do logged into the game. There's no way to effectively stake out someone in a structure because of the large percentage of the day you will be away from the stake out.

2. Drop the mission



Also get Intel to see if the jedi your hunting likes to be AFK in a house for hours...










Then get the intel to see if that jedi spends hours afk or only 10 minutes..



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