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Thread: So i have been going after full templates lately

_Crash_
Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:49 pm
#14

The issues is that many jedi dont really know how to PVP they rely on their template for the win. These types go up against a bh who knows what they are doing and they die.
HyprHypo
Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:44 pm
#15



_Crash_ wrote:


If you get 2 people with the same skill and 1 is a MBH temp and the other is a full jedi temp, the Jedi will win 100% of the time.


Not true.. a full temp who is low on force might as well be a novice brawler and I have killed quite a few full temps 1 vs 1





and the same goes for someone with action. If the situations are the same for both (100% heal etc, right now as of this mooment the jedi would win.)



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Evolved
Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:53 pm
#16

k i was there just along for the ride, watching you fight tiani.



Yes the person offering you a ride should NOT have done that
Yes the duel would have gone for a little while longer
No, you still would not have won
No, Tiani did not ask the person to cheat


don't blame the jedi


oh, and the battle lasted 14 minutes, check your logs

edit: you were not going strong... yeah you might have been able to pop a few stims but your mind was down to 10% when you went down

Message Edited by Evolved on 06-24-2005 01:04 AM



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VegitoSS
Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:18 pm
#17

Nextime have a buddy spam offer ride to her and let the jedi see how it feels.

_Nightrunner_
Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:35 am
#18

action regenerates much faster than force.. pop a food and dont use up all your action in the first place.. If ou start getting low on action swith your default attack to a low action special such as the defailt ranges shot. With a good rifle you can still pour on the damage and generate more action at the same time. The jedi is still having to us thei rforce and stims to heal that even though it costs you nothing and you are actually recharging. A little parawan can go a long way in keepiing out of their damage range.
_Nightrunner_
Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:45 am
#19





ROFL just be aware I've seen Starcia fight... it is TRUELY unimpresive. It took her 5 min to take down an AFK jedi.. obviously she eventually killed the jedi, woo hoo for her & the BHs... I just found it particularly funny.


Actually I take it back... Starcia write up that guide, you are an excellent PvP participant.


/notetoself - becareful of starcia & going afk






there is a defender/enhancer/healer template which if you get the macro tuned just right it is almost impossible to take them down. Taking these peopel down in 3-5 minutes takes SKILL. I have seen jedi AFK KD'd in front of the terminals in Kadaara just for kicks.. and bh's could not kill them. When I was pistols it took 46 minutes to kill them.. with a rifle I can do it in 3-5 with a little luck.


This is one of the things that is being nerfed because it is completely rediculous. People have complained that Jedi fights consist of a 30 minute force drain fest with a stalemate yet I take out one running the same macros in 3-5 minutes and I it is becuase I suck at PVP?


If is suck at PVP why does it take another jedi 30 minutes to kill someone running this macro?

Mayor_Chuckles
Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:05 pm
#20






VegitoSS wrote:

Nextime have a buddy spam offer ride to her and let the jedi see how it feels.





wouldnt be the first jedi to go down that way


2 bh come after me, the one that died came back to do that.



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SomeUser
Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:37 pm
#21






johnmalm77 wrote:

ROFL just be aware I've seen Starcia fight... it is TRUELY unimpresive. It took her 5 min to take down an AFK jedi.. obviously she eventually killed the jedi, woo hoo for her & the BHs... I just found it particularly funny.


Actually I take it back... Starcia write up that guide, you are an excellent PvP participant.


/notetoself - becareful of starcia & going afk







What is impressive is a BH taking the time to go all the way to Kash, find their mark, and fight a battle that is truly not in their favor. 5mins to take down a Padawan may not be impressive as far as PvP skills... 5 mins to take down a /afk Jedi knight with the right template *is* impressive however.


Nevertheless, bad at PvP or not, taking the time to help curb the Jedi population and ruin some 16yrs kid's feelings of grandeur is priceless. I'm an old player when it comes to SWG but I just got back from a year break... Not to mention I had always been a crafter type VS a PvP type. I probably would get my ass kicked even by reckless Padawan but I would like to learn...


In the end I would like to be a "friend" to the real Jedi players by keeping their population in check and allowing Jedi to be a powerful class, and H-A-T-E-D by the 12 - 16yrs who just want to grief other players with their "I win button" just so they can make up in a game with what they lack in real life; prestige, respect, and power LoL






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Enix_Dayspring
Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:00 pm
#22

You can't really blame the Jedi for what their groupmates do.


I don't mind a good BH fight, but I've been grouped with people who think they're helping or showing their support for me by getting in the BHs face and /flail ing or calling the BH names. I don't want them to do these things, I show BHs respect and expect respect from them in turn.


The surrounding people are usually just trying to show their support for their friend / groupmate. Try not to take it too personally.





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Enix_Dayspring
Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:04 pm
#23






LIKspiker wrote:





HyprHypo wrote:





Cada_Kai wrote:

you say Jedi are overpowered yet you can stand toe to toe with them for 25+ minutes.



yep sounds like Jedi needs a nerf.


geesh








If you get 2 people with the same skill and 1 is a MBH temp and the other is a full jedi temp, the Jedi will win 100% of the time.




You are actually quite wrong, I've killed several ~220k marks on my BH alt...Its possible just not easy.






I think what he means is that if you could clone yourself and one of you played a BH and the other played a Jedi, yourself with the Jedi character would always win.


The Jedi templates have an inherent advantage over most normal templates. If you do indeed kill full templated Jedi, it means that your skill with your character is higher than the Jedi's skill for his character since you've overcome the inherent advantage of the Jedi's character skill.


It means that if you can kill full templated Jedi, you are a more skilled player than the Jedi is... either that or you got lucky / he messed up...





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Hnglka
Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:10 pm
#24






Enix_Dayspring wrote:

You can't really blame the Jedi for what their groupmates do.


I don't mind a good BH fight, but I've been grouped with people who think they're helping or showing their support for me by getting in the BHs face and /flail ing or calling the BH names. I don't want them to do these things, I show BHs respect and expect respect from them in turn.


The surrounding people are usually just trying to show their support for their friend / groupmate. Try not to take it too personally.








/agree


unfortunately there are too many groupmates and friends out there that feel they are helping you out by doing these things. I for one would rather they stayed the hell ot of the way and let me concentrate on the task at hand. It's distracting and annoying to have people running around and trying to "help" plus it takes the satisfaction out of sending the BH to the cloner when you know that he/she was lagged out and distracted by other people.


the same applies on the other side of the fence, tho its rare that a bh has a buddy spammin offerride or otherwise being a pain in the rear.


just my.02 cents from someone that has both a MBH and a Jedi





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diepa
Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:10 pm
#25






_Crash_ wrote:


I get sick of people grinding on kashyyyk so I have been going after full templates lately.. killed a few lost a few. Now i know that grinding jedi hate me becuase i kill them but full templates are always talking about how they would love for a bh to come after them but they never do. So far my experience has been that the most of the full template jedi I have gone after.. people who have been knights for a long time are just as bad or worse than the paddies with he hate and the cheating.

I go after tiani tonight, 226k on the bria server and we have a long fight about 25+ minutes long. She is obviously the FOTM defender enhancer x404 sabers variety. So i am about to get to the point where i can pop a more parwan and some stims and her lackies stary yelling for me to give it up and die.. obviously I am trying to wear down her force and I am still going strong after 30 minutes. Well what do her friends do? the start spamming /offerrides to me locking up my comp and then spit on my corps and start saying all kinds of vulger things. I asked why they had to exploit when she is full temp and they start calling me a noob and spitting on me.

What ever happened to all the jedi who say Hunt me im full temp and then when they find out they cant kill me they have to result to exploits, cheating, vulgarity and decicration.

Now you know why so many people hate jedi.






Well, did the jedi you were fighting do anything illegal? You cannot control others in this game. First time I ground my noob Jedi in a group a BH killed me. Oh well, I actually sent the BH a tell saying he did a masterful job because I never seen him, and that he was my first...we are going back and forth in a very nice conversation when he tells me someone that was in my group was sending tells cursing him... I have also seen 4 BH's try to take a guldmate who was a fully templated ex-knight, during the fight some in the guild started that same crap with the offer rides, after the fight the Jedi yelled at them in guildchat.


My point is judge the Jedi by his behavior and not those who he is with at the time.


IamCadan
Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:13 pm
#26

Any bounty hunter that can last over 10 minutes with a full template jedi knows his stuff inside and out. How can you call a BH a noob when he can last that long?? I've never understood that reasoning....




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