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Thread: Jedi Flying Saber attack ?

Camrux
Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:11 am
#14






rubix-pewb wrote:





mindspat wrote:






RPG-Forever wrote:

Ive heardt the Jedi KD-Ability will be canceled on Wednesday. Is that right?






Not entirely correct.


Current Lightaber is gaining a Knockdown ability through saber throw that's found in teh techniques tree x/x/x/4. What's being done is they are removing the Area of Affect on the entire saberThrow attack (this is very good for jedi) and the onlt option for a ranged KD will be if the Jedi has mastery in sabers.









wrong.




Please enlighten us then oh sage of the saber....


Mindspat,


The Melee version of theLS KD is at LS 0001 - it's called Saber Sweep and I find it works well in close.





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mindspat
Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:14 am
#15






rubix-pewb wrote:





mindspat wrote:






RPG-Forever wrote:

Ive heardt the Jedi KD-Ability will be canceled on Wednesday. Is that right?






Not entirely correct.


Current Lightaber is gaining a Knockdown ability through saber throw that's found in teh techniques tree x/x/x/4. What's being done is they are removing the Area of Affect on the entire saberThrow attack (this is very good for jedi) and the onlt option for a ranged KD will be if the Jedi has mastery in sabers.


/saberThrow - xxx2 (just basic 32m ranged attack with no states or effects)


/imporvedSaberThrow - xxx4 (32m range ^)


/advancedSaberThrow - Lightsaber Master (32m range with KnockDown ability)


*Keep in mind saber throw is also getting a "slight" boost in dmg. Probally somewhere around 10% increase. The action and force costs are being reduced on ALL saber attacks to fit it inline with the other "fixes". I wouldn't be concerned that someone would recieve an advantage from this increase in damage. The real benefit to 90% of the Jedi is that AoE is being removed from the SaberThrow thus no longer inadvertantly pulling agroes while attmpting to toss a saber at a BH staning in a mob of nasties.


edit: (too early and I think I was given decaff) Daoublebladed sabers have a knock down ability although I do not recall offhand where it's located in 00x0.

Message Edited by mindspat on 06-24-200508:02 AM








wrong.





Ok ok, the initial post was relating to SaberThrow although saberthrow is conisdered a melee attack for purposes of accuracy.


The shy-guy who posted "wrong" is likely refering to Jedi Powers.




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Camrux
Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:15 am
#16

Granted, that's powers and you are correct in that it is there.


But for LS it is either saber sweep or the Master level of saber throw





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TheCapn2000
Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:15 am
#17






Camrux wrote:





rubix-pewb wrote:





mindspat wrote:






RPG-Forever wrote:

Ive heardt the Jedi KD-Ability will be canceled on Wednesday. Is that right?






Not entirely correct.


Current Lightaber is gaining a Knockdown ability through saber throw that's found in teh techniques tree x/x/x/4. What's being done is they are removing the Area of Affect on the entire saberThrow attack (this is very good for jedi) and the onlt option for a ranged KD will be if the Jedi has mastery in sabers.









wrong.




Please enlighten us then oh sage of the saber....


Mindspat,


The Melee version of theLS KD is at LS 0001 - it's called Saber Sweep and I find it works well in close.






powers has a ranged KD




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Camelz
Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:18 am
#18






paolo_ikro wrote:

Sorry to troll, but yes KD will be a MLS skill only. The only other issue with KD in game is usually in PvP is lag. Sometimes bad lag can stop you from getting back up with KD recovery.


/tiphat to the Bounty Hunter community








Thats no troll. Jedi with something intelligent to say and the intelligence to say it are always welcome on these boards. /bow



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mindspat
Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:48 am
#19






Camelz wrote:



Thats no troll. Jedi with something intelligent to say and the intelligence to say it are always welcome on these boards. /bow





Love the sig, gave me a good laugh.




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CrashNgoBoom
Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:56 am
#20

Some may view it as a "nerf." But I know every MLS out there is saying to themselves "finally." The most annoying part of being MLS was if we threw our saber, it agroed everything behind it. Now, we stillget to throw our saber, still get the KD, but do more damage and have less force/action cost.



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zukem
Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:20 am
#21






Daesuin wrote:
How does one break this ?
I have been hit with it a number of times now with the same result.
I get KD and no matter what I do I can seem to get back up. Jedi walks up and bye bye to my neck .

Just wondering if there is a way to break this.

Thanks
Finn





Just to answer the original posters question, since I didn't see it in any responses.


You need knockdown recovery. This skill is granted to you at novice marksman or novice brawler. So you should have it. In order to get up in Post CU days, you have to use knockdown recovery, you can't just type stand.


As for the discussion of Saber Throw, I'll say what's been said before.


Master Saber throw will have the only ranged knockdown in the Lightsabers tree. If you are not a master lightsaber, then you will just have a saber sweep which is a melee knockdown.


Also, in the Force Powers discipline, there is a force knockdown. This is a ranged knockdown. I believe the main difference between forceknockdown and saber throw though is that force knockdown does minimal damage. I also believe (and someone that has powers will have to verify this) is that the higher force knockdwon is a area attack.





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Camrux
Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:22 am
#22






CrashNgoBoom wrote:
Some may view it as a "nerf." But I know every MLS out there is saying to themselves "finally." The most annoying part of being MLS was if we threw our saber, it agroed everything behind it. Now, we stillget to throw our saber, still get the KD, but do more damage and have less force/action cost.





I'm not a master LS and I dont see this as a nerf either.
As a0244 LS I use saber throw to pull aggro to the group sometimes and the KD's would bug me a bit as I like to pull the mob over first and toss a stun and an armorbreak on thembefore the KD, the KD on the toss makes me have to wait for the timer.








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