Bounty Hunter Archive

Thread: Squadleader buffs to BH's exploits?

Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:01 am
#14






master_loy wrote:
Jedi are doing the same thing. This issue goes both ways.





True words.



Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
Toe-KneeG
Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:30 am
#15






xakia wrote:

Thats odd. I tried applying a buff to my Jedi guildy while he was in a BH fight. It didn't apply to him at all. He was not combatant or special forces at the time either. Perhaps its bugged? I just know my buffs didn't work at all.









WoW: Illidan Server

Annthonny - Alliance Hunter

Guild: Derelict


andyyyyy
Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:33 am
#16

As i was saying in the jedi post i did, they need it so that when the bh initiates combat the SL buffs drop for both sides.




Haslos -Famed Bounty Hunter /
Wettham- Dark Jedi Best Mpowers temp on flurry



Puppynasauces - Starsider Roleplaying Rebel Bothan Commando

BadChef
Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:59 am
#17

The thing jedi are complaining about isnt that the buffs should drop once the tef goes into effect. It's that first shot with the buff before the buff is dropped that they claim is incapping them in one hit. I'l accept theres a little inbalance, that being the right combo of the buff, weapon, special, accuracy, etc. What I wont accept is all these jedi claiming one hit incap as often as they're saying, since it realy needs the right occasion to work right, so if this is happening at the rate they say, then they need to look over their own builds or tactics.




xfire name: thachef
__________
BadChef: Smuggler
lbfoofoo
Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:07 am
#18

what is this about one shot incap with an SL buff? My last jedi hunt this weekend there were 4 of us with an SL with us who buffed us and we didn't get a one shot incap, it took us about 10 min to kill him. I've been out of the loop
xakia
Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:29 am
#19


ONLY a Master Squadleader can get even close to that ability (and Master Riflemen) while solo. That is, if you hit and crit, the jedi doesn't immediately fr3 right up into your face as you lay prone, or pop a steak.


If you look at the Jedi forum pics, all those post of 4k+ damage are done on low level noobs with no armor or noob Jedi with no Defender in their template. Guy absorbs 800 damage out of almost 5k damage dealt? Yeah, he has no armor.


They're just hyping it up worse than theater trailors. Anything thatcan kill them needs to be nerfed. Look at the forum titles:

The Truth about the Electrolyte drain nerf, and the snare nerf.

Deleted posts over BH snare , beacuase sony cant handle the truth

called shot + last ditch = BH "I win button"...[ 1 2 ]

Wholy CRIPES!! Check out the new Mustufar weapon stats!![ 1 2 3 4 5 ]

my polearm hits for 4000 damage, and im not kidding

MCM is way too powerful[ 1 2 ]

Ok, what the Heck is this?!!....[ 1 2 3 ]

{Focus Thread} Jedi Combat Mechanics that no longer make sense with the PUB24 Combat Changes

Do you guys think the introduction of BH terminals was just to appease newbie BH?

A bandaid to a bigger problem. Change Rancor Aid to work with all snares

BH now think that jedi are exploiting when they lose

What to do with my Jedi when I am not playing (afk house sitting)...will I get in trouble?[ 1 2 3 ]

Is it exploiting if.. BH uses SL ?


DRAMA




(+) CS:SWG(+) Step into my awp
Bounty Hunting since July 2003
"Jedi, you've ruined your ...no no that can't be right. SOE you've ruined your own lands! You'll not ruin mine!"

iskareot
Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:34 am
#20






xakia wrote:


ONLY a Master Squadleader can get even close to that ability (and Master Riflemen) while solo. That is, if you hit and crit, the jedi doesn't immediately fr3 right up into your face as you lay prone, or pop a steak.


If you look at the Jedi forum pics, all those post of 4k+ damage are done on low level noobs with no armor or noob Jedi with no Defender in their template. Guy absorbs 800 damage out of almost 5k damage dealt? Yeah, he has no armor.


They're just hyping it up worse than theater trailors. Anything thatcan kill them needs to be nerfed. Look at the forum titles:

The Truth about the Electrolyte drain nerf, and the snare nerf.

Deleted posts over BH snare , beacuase sony cant handle the truth

called shot + last ditch = BH "I win button"...[ 1 2 ]

Wholy CRIPES!! Check out the new Mustufar weapon stats!![ 1 2 3 4 5 ]

my polearm hits for 4000 damage, and im not kidding

MCM is way too powerful[ 1 2 ]

Ok, what the Heck is this?!!....[ 1 2 3 ]

{Focus Thread} Jedi Combat Mechanics that no longer make sense with the PUB24 Combat Changes

Do you guys think the introduction of BH terminals was just to appease newbie BH?

A bandaid to a bigger problem. Change Rancor Aid to work with all snares

BH now think that jedi are exploiting when they lose

What to do with my Jedi when I am not playing (afk house sitting)...will I get in trouble?[ 1 2 3 ]

Is it exploiting if.. BH uses SL ?


DRAMA






I am MLS, ME with foods and FA2 -- got hit for 3186 -- incap from a BH/Rifle at 60 or so out, with a SL buff.


Just FYI.. didnt see it coming in fact I can do nothing but die at that distance. One heal in if I am lucky





__________________________________________________________________
In the context of new development methods adopted within the past year by the studio responsible for Star Wars Galaxies, which a year ago saw several drastic changes to the game-world's overall experience, SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes."
xakia
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:11 am
#21



MSL MEhancer is yard trash to anyone wielding a rifle. This has changed nothing for you.


Just like I mentioned above....Jedi saying they got 1 shotted with low armor. That is not an SL issue. That is a Jedi issue and I'm sorry you guys are forced into the Defender tree.

Message Edited by xakia on 10-24-2005 09:21 AM



(+) CS:SWG(+) Step into my awp
Bounty Hunting since July 2003
"Jedi, you've ruined your ...no no that can't be right. SOE you've ruined your own lands! You'll not ruin mine!"

pepe4158
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:14 am
#22

As I was saying in another post just let the new n improved version of piketts incapp the whole lot of em; then calmly walk up and DB lol
destrkta
Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:20 pm
#23






Arcanis wrote:





destrkta wrote:
SL buff's follow the same rules as any doc buff's for bh engagement's they must be initiated before teh tef is in place, once the tef is on, the buffs can not be reapplied.





not true, SL buffs apply during TEF with a mark, They shouldn't apply in a Jedi v. BH fight, but as i recall it's still bugged and does apply





they must be applied prior to tef, i tried using charge to put some distance between me and the jedi (sl is an alt running on my 2nd pc alt is always within 100m's) and the group buff changed on the sl but not for the bh, this applies like any other buff it's all about preperation and sl buff's can be used in the preperation stage of combat just not during the tef stage. Also sl abilities like last chance don't effect teh bh while the tef is active.


There is a 10minute indivual buff and a 30minute group buff, for the indivual buff the sl doesn't need to be in range doesn't even have to be grouped, the group buff must be within 100m's but there are way's to bypass that (sl not in 100m's i call as an exploit.)


preperation and first strike are bh strong point's and we'll use them in a way to get the jump on the jedi.

Message Edited by destrkta on 10-24-2005 06:22 PM




Rand al'thor, the masterful Bounty Hunter
The hunter that is now hunted
Only BH to solo kill and hunt a Jedi Master(pre cu) on valcyn /bow quing'tut
destrkta
Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:22 pm
#24

apply not reapply exactly like doc buff's




Rand al'thor, the masterful Bounty Hunter
The hunter that is now hunted
Only BH to solo kill and hunt a Jedi Master(pre cu) on valcyn /bow quing'tut
xakia
Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:27 pm
#25

Exactly what he said above. The only buff you should be worried about is the SL run buff. The other ones are not all that effective on a *single* player.





(+) CS:SWG(+) Step into my awp
Bounty Hunting since July 2003
"Jedi, you've ruined your ...no no that can't be right. SOE you've ruined your own lands! You'll not ruin mine!"

dpke_uk
Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:31 pm
#26






destrkta wrote:
SL buff's follow the same rules as any doc buff's for bh engagement's they must be initiated before teh tef is in place, once the tef is on, the buffs can not be reapplied.





Bull. I'm MSL and I can tell you - All GROUP buffs (Melee defence, burst run etc) all work - It's just TARGET buffs (such as called shot) that don't.



Apeik Torres
Pre-9 Dark Jedi Knight

-also-
Danith
NGE Medic





Page 2 of 3