Bounty Hunter Archive

Thread: Bounty Hunters... what can Dev do Right Now??

Annius
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:14 pm
#235






JustG wrote:


... There are many many things that we can do to help out your profession, given time.


Some of the things will be addressed bythe ol' "Combat Balance" mantra ... but not soon enough for you I am sure.


Other things are proving VERY difficult for us to track down. The 0 0 0 waypoint issue is quite a bear andwe are putting in still more logging tomorrow, but again, not soon enough for you I am sure.


The Jedi XP issue is requiring programming time which we don't have. We are trying to work it in, but again not soon enough for you.


We want to help out your profession as soon as possible. So that being said, as soon as we can get it through test ...


We are going to remove the Trapping, Hunting, and Survival Scout lines from the Bounty Hunter prerequisites.


This should give you and additional 48 skill points to add to the 33 you had left over for a total of 81 additional point to spend as you please.


This is something that we have been considering for a long time, and wanted to do as part of the CB, but we need you to be as effective as possible against Jedi as soon as possible. This is a start.


Your other issues are known, and in varying stages of development, but we want you to know that things are going to get better. Hopefully rapidly.


This change will be hitting Test Center tomorrow afternoon, and should be Live by Friday.


/salute


- g







Are you TRYING to be a smart-ass? You act like we are the cause!!! HOW Fvckin dare you act like WE ARE THE CAUSE!!! You make it sound like WE have control of the profession!!! "Not soon enough for us?!?" This profession has been FUBAR for far too long, and YOU ACT like its OUR fault?!? You promise fixes...say we should be able to "control the Jedi population", and we COMPLAIN when you don't follow through on your promises, and then you throw it back in our faces by this **edit**ty ass response?! You don't expect people to complain when you ignor the eintire profession publish after publish?!


Get a clue man-


oh, and i'd rather be able to make a tent than have the BH profession nerfed to all hell when you figure out this band-aid wont hold.





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Klinsek
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:15 pm
#236

I am with the others when I say this is a poor choice of a "quick fix".

I foresee more harm than good for the profession.




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AgreaAtodlie
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:15 pm
#237






Decanus wrote:

So after this how meny MBH will have Tracking skills?


If you want to keep the ranger skill of tracking you are still S.O.L.


So what diferance does this realy make?


JustG take some time to think about thins would you.






If you want to spend YOUR extra points for ranger tracking, fine...THE REST OF US DON'T WANT SCOUT AT ALL...well besides exploration for the terrain mods.
MonroeThanes
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:16 pm
#238

BH has nothing to do with jedi xp, if the BHsintent for hunting jedi is to make that player lose xp then blatant griefing, before it is argued otherwise, yes intent is very important, if you set out to be a BH with the idea that your going to make a jedi lose xp then youve got some growing up to do. as a jedi all i have to say is bring it



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Nisdain
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:17 pm
#239

Love the changes. You coulda been nicer though G



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JediGohan
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:17 pm
#240

There needs to be an onion sort of thing like what they did with Jedi so that Bounty Hunter doesnt just have to be all about the LLC, pistols, or carbines.


It could be you choose novice bounty hunter, then you have some trees to pick from to add to your BH template like I would pick


Investigation / TK Defense Line / TK Power Line / TK Accuracy Line


or it could be


Investigation / Fencer Footwork / Fencing Techniques / Fencing Finesse



Does anybody see what im going with this?




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AgreaAtodlie
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:20 pm
#241






Annius wrote:





JustG wrote:


... There are many many things that we can do to help out your profession, given time.


Some of the things will be addressed bythe ol' "Combat Balance" mantra ... but not soon enough for you I am sure.


Other things are proving VERY difficult for us to track down. The 0 0 0 waypoint issue is quite a bear andwe are putting in still more logging tomorrow, but again, not soon enough for you I am sure.


The Jedi XP issue is requiring programming time which we don't have. We are trying to work it in, but again not soon enough for you.


We want to help out your profession as soon as possible. So that being said, as soon as we can get it through test ...


We are going to remove the Trapping, Hunting, and Survival Scout lines from the Bounty Hunter prerequisites.


This should give you and additional 48 skill points to add to the 33 you had left over for a total of 81 additional point to spend as you please.


This is something that we have been considering for a long time, and wanted to do as part of the CB, but we need you to be as effective as possible against Jedi as soon as possible. This is a start.


Your other issues are known, and in varying stages of development, but we want you to know that things are going to get better. Hopefully rapidly.


This change will be hitting Test Center tomorrow afternoon, and should be Live by Friday.


/salute


- g







Are you TRYING to be a smart-ass? You act like we are the cause!!! HOW Fvckin dare you act like WE ARE THE CAUSE!!! You make it sound like WE have control of the profession!!! "Not soon enough for us?!?" This profession has been FUBAR for far too long, and YOU ACT like its OUR fault?!? You promise fixes...say we should be able to "control the Jedi population", and we COMPLAIN when you don't follow through on your promises, and then you throw it back in our faces by this **edit**ty ass response?! You don't expect people to complain when you ignor the eintire profession publish after publish?!


Get a clue man-


oh, and i'd rather be able to make a tent than have the BH profession nerfed to all hell when you figure out this band-aid wont hold.








*Hands Annius a cookie*...shh. Freaking out doesn't solve anything. WE understand, your perceptions and frustrations...and how JustG's response could seem to be sarcastic...but he isn't. They are bumping up something they were going to do in the combat balance...you know the one that isn't happening for like 4 to 5 months from now...to...FRIDAY...so cut them some slack in that regard. I am still pissed about the Jedi xp "oops" response...but at least they are giving us a cookie with our roofie as they screw us...so...be happy about that. Be more tactful, and less **edit** and you will see better results...although I do admit that **edit** does help at times so...
KaernLegorah
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:20 pm
#242



JustG wrote:
We are going to remove the Trapping, Hunting, and Survival Scout lines from the Bounty Hunter prerequisites.




Ok.... I'm very happy that BH's are getting this change made for them; I really really am happy about it from a purely BH point of view.

But what about the rest of the game? Isn't this going to be a bit imbalancing? Already a Master Pistoleer with BH Pistols can be a powerful force, but now you've give players the ability to make a Master Pistoleer with BH Pistols and Smuggler Dirty Fighting, and even that only takes up 222 skill points! Super speed, great accuracy, dodge, and both Eyeshot AND LastDitch?!? That's just craziness.

Again, this is a good change for BHs, but is it really wise to put this in before the CB? This will allow for an already powerful template to become even stronger.



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WILDMAN_SOLO
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:20 pm
#243






JediGohan wrote:

There needs to be an onion sort of thing like what they did with Jedi so that Bounty Hunter doesnt just have to be all about the LLC, pistols, or carbines.


It could be you choose novice bounty hunter, then you have some trees to pick from to add to your BH template like I would pick


Investigation / TK Defense Line / TK Power Line / TK Accuracy Line


or it could be


Investigation / Fencer Footwork / Fencing Techniques / Fencing Finesse



Does anybody see what im going with this?





Yes you are going down the road that will lead to us being nerfed even harder than we ever have been.


Fix the current version of BH and acts of lunacy like we are about to witness on Friday need not happen





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Southwick
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:21 pm
#244

Monroe you are naive. Why do you think MBH exist? Its to kill jedi. We want them to lose xp. Call it griefing if you like, but the simple fact is its not nearly as much fun as killing them with perma death would have been! We dont get money atm so what other point is there.


I repeat.

WE ONLY GET 15K ATM WHAT OTHER POINT IS THERE TO KILLING THEM. EVEN IF ITS FOR THE JOY OF KILLING JEDI, AND NOT TO HAVE THEM LOSE EXP THEN YOU WOULD CALL IT GRIEFING.


If we were doing it for the money we would be stupid. Watching you guys die is what brings me back everday.



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Death, sometimes had its price.
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MAKE DROIDS WORK OR THIS IS ALL POINTLESS.
FIX THE WEAPON SWITCH
MOVE JEDI HUNTING TO STALKER RANK
GIVE MBH A SIGNIFICANT BOOST TO PLAYER TRACKING(SO THEY CAN BE MBH)
OsmiumGray
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:23 pm
#245

What this tells me, is that they are not taking the delay out. They are bsaically telling all BH "Pick carbine or pistol as your weapon becasue you can't use both anymore." and that is pretty messed up. Though I must say I welcome this since they have damn near crippled the profession right now and with the extra points I can actually defend myself.
AgreaAtodlie
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:23 pm
#246






Southwick wrote:

This is a temp solution, I hope. Most of all Hunting Jedi has to be moved to MBH. Yes this means to master teras kasi bh. You can get very close to it, but not quite enouph skill pts.


With requiring mbh for hunting jedi you first remove the risk of having CM as bh. Im scared of that.

Secondit helps us for the moment. I know many of you are saying that you would rather wait until the combat rebalance. If we wait that long there will betoo many jedi at too high level for us to stop. This will aid in killing them now!


This is secondary to THE DROID BUGS. FIX DROIDS FIRST OR ALL OF THIS IS POINTLESS.

This is secondary to THE WEAPON TIMER DELAY!

This is secondary to NO TEF ON EXPOSED LS FOR JEDI. THEY HAVE ALL GONE SILLY, and ARE RUNNING AMUCK!


If its overpowered we can fix it in the combat rebalance. As long as jedi hunting is at MBH we honestly wont see a huge problem I dont think.


Then again im in pvp to kill jedi and nothing more. The GCW can eat my shorts.






Not to pick at your post...but after this change...you get more than close on the tkm/mbh thing...its like...1 box away...so basically, just stack the brawler prof defense and offense...and you got yourself a winner george...
Feistrola
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:23 pm
#247

Nice one...
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You've Decided to Kill It.

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