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Thread: BH's check out our new rifle!! Curteousy of SOE's lies and false advertisement!!!
Blixtev wrote:
Not everything given as a quest reward will be a /pwnbbqjedionastick . Easy quests give lower quality items than harder quests or harder Boss's. When the Mustafar team asked for weaponry we gave them something like 5 - 8 versions of each weapon. Some will be better than others. I would guess anything that comes out so soon after the expansion opens isnt from the harder quests nor the big boss kills.
Judging stats from Frog testing weapons isn't a very good indication as all Frog weapons are set to exceed max stats in every way that a could never be made/looted.
QFE
Summerflame wrote:
JediGuardain3 wrote:
I recently with the help ofmy friendscormyr and -xavier- completed the quest chain called Unlocking the Secrets. The end result was the fabled DP-23 rifle. Which turns out to be COMPLETE GARBAGE. The DP-23 previewed on last weeks friday feature had over 1200 max dmg and i believe an 85 sac. NOW go to this link and see the real ingame rifle, which is the worst rifle in this whole damn game. I dont know what they expect us to kill with this. Durni's? Nuna's? Capper Spineflaps?!?!?!?! SOE EXPLAIN YOUR FALSE ADVERTISEMENT!
I was looking forward to getting this item more than any other item in this expansion. To be dissapointed and find it to be nothing more than a wall decoration. Unslicable and unable to be pup'ed. SOE plz explain this.
Total Garbage
Sadia
Message Edited by JediGuardain3 on 10-25-200511:35 PM
The WS community is hoping that hte stats shown in the friday feature is the craftable caps (at least for damage.)
We are very relieved that the quest versions of these weapons arent all that great as we would have lost our entire gameplay if they were.
So get glowy stuff to your Local WS so he/she can discover the schematic for this rifle and craft you a master piece
Also Blixtev I do hope that the better versions you are talking about is indeed the craftable versions if not, then we are back to worrying about loosing our entire gameplay to loot weapons,
-PheaR- wrote:
Blixtev wrote:
Are Dev's allowed to "QFE" ?
TheNarcis wrote:
You people need to read more into what he is saying, and what Julio said in the recent Dev Chat on MMORPG.com. It clearly gives the assumption there is 5-8 versions of each weapon, and that there may be better versions of that same item out there from bigger and badder bosses via loot.
Message Edited by TheNarcis on 10-28-2005 01:53 AM
First off, why are you being condescending?
Secondly, why not just say "This isn't the only version available for this weapon. There are other versions available via loot. Keep looking."?
Lastly, I'm really glad I didn't get the expansion, now.
I say let him be condescending. AT LEAST HE GETS THINGS DONE AROUND HERE UNLIKE YOUR IGNORANT WHINES.
Bought 10 expansions, Blix, enough to make up for toodles here. 
Fivo Asia
-PheaR- wrote:
TheNarcis wrote:
-PheaR- wrote:
First off, why are you being condescending?
Secondly, why not just say "This isn't the only version available for this weapon. There are other versions available via loot. Keep looking."?
Lastly, I'm really glad I didn't get the expansion, now.
He did say it. He said "we gave them something like 5 - 8 versions of each weapon. Some will be better than others".
Message Edited by TheNarcis on 10-28-2005 02:01 AM
Yep. You're right, he did. However, did he need to include the "Not everything given as a quest reward will be a /pwnbbqjedionastick " part?
The answer is an obvious - no. He didn't.
Edit - To clarify my second question, I meant it moreso as why couldnt he have just said that, and leave out the "Not everything given as a quest reward will be a /pwnbbqjedionastick" part. He wouldn't have come across as such a jack-ass, then.
Message Edited by -PheaR- on 10-28-2005 04:39 AM
The only one thats comeing across as a total jack-ass is.....you.
Blixtev wrote:Not everything given as a quest reward will be a /pwnbbqjedionastick
rofl Blixtev, ur ok dude...
Blixtev wrote:Not everything given as a quest reward will be a /pwnbbqjedionastick . Easy quests give lower quality items than harder quests or harder Boss's. When the Mustafar team asked for weaponry we gave them something like 5 - 8 versions of each weapon. Some will be better than others. I would guess anything that comes out so soon after the expansion opens isnt from the harder quests nor the big boss kills.
Judging stats from Frog testing weapons isn't a very good indication as all Frog weapons are set to exceed max stats in every way that a could never be made/looted.
Oh, given this dev's hate-Jedi record, I am sure it's out there somewhere.
Just look harder.
-PheaR- wrote:
Blixtev wrote:
Are Dev's allowed to "QFE" ?
TheNarcis wrote:
You people need to read more into what he is saying, and what Julio said in the recent Dev Chat on MMORPG.com. It clearly gives the assumption there is 5-8 versions of each weapon, and that there may be better versions of that same item out there from bigger and badder bosses via loot.
Message Edited by TheNarcis on 10-28-2005 01:53 AM
First off, why are you being condescending?
Secondly, why not just say "This isn't the only version available for this weapon. There are other versions available via loot. Keep looking."?
Lastly, I'm really glad I didn't get the expansion, now.
Because he did say that much earlier in a post inthis thread but people seem to be ignoring that fact.
Blixtev wrote:
Not everything given as a quest reward will be a /pwnbbqjedionastick . Easy quests give lower quality items than harder quests or harder Boss's. When the Mustafar team asked for weaponry we gave them something like 5 - 8 versions of each weapon. Some will be better than others. I would guess anything that comes out so soon after the expansion opens isnt from the harder quests nor the big boss kills.
Judging stats from Frog testing weapons isn't a very good indication as all Frog weapons are set to exceed max stats in every way that a could never be made/looted.
So there are /pwnbbqjedionastick wpns? What was the point of the cu. They removed and nerfed the top of line weapons and legendary loot wpns only to put them back in.....
Mean while Jedi have nothing to compete with ....skills nerfed....innate armor(jedi tkm) can't be AB sliced resisted and Jedi don't have the option of armor.
Snares, kd, roots can now perma-snare,root,kd a melee to keep them beyound their combat range to melee is sol in combat with range in most cases.
Jedi are limited to mid level sabers because of substandard pearls, crystals. Jedi have no way to bring sabers up to elite weapons level, can not slice or pup them so were sol on weapons. Jedi power users have a static range on damage....
It goes on but why the cu only to imbalance all combat and now make one new alpha class BH. Look the metrics BH is the most dominate profession and it is one for a reason, best loot, best def, best off. They need some serious fixes for this game and a new cu.
Aries1 wrote:
Blixtev wrote:
Not everything given as a quest reward will be a /pwnbbqjedionastick . Easy quests give lower quality items than harder quests or harder Boss's. When the Mustafar team asked for weaponry we gave them something like 5 - 8 versions of each weapon. Some will be better than others. I would guess anything that comes out so soon after the expansion opens isnt from the harder quests nor the big boss kills.
Judging stats from Frog testing weapons isn't a very good indication as all Frog weapons are set to exceed max stats in every way that a could never be made/looted.
So there are /pwnbbqjedionastick wpns? What was the point of the cu. They removed and nerfed the top of line weapons and legendary loot wpns only to put them back in.....
Mean while Jedi have nothing to compete with ....skills nerfed....innate armor(jedi tkm) can't be AB sliced resisted and Jedi don't have the option of armor.
Snares, kd, roots can now perma-snare,root,kd a melee to keep them beyound their combat range to melee is sol in combat with range in most cases.
Jedi are limited to mid level sabers because of substandard pearls, crystals. Jedi have no way to bring sabers up to elite weapons level, can not slice or pup them so were sol on weapons. Jedi power users have a static range on damage....
It goes on but why the cu only to imbalance all combat and now make one new alpha class BH. Look the metrics BH is the most dominate profession and it is one for a reason, best loot, best def, best off. They need some serious fixes for this game and a new cu.
I guess everyone gave up the argument about how Jedi are not "true to form" awhile back... sad, that they've been reduced to what they are now. Jedi SHOULD be an elite class of fighters/healers/scholars. Their weapons SHOULD cut right through anything they touch (minus cortosis ore) like butter. And yet, I stand there everynight, dumbfounded that I can tank a Jedi for minutes on end without losing a limb. Odd.... No one seems to care about that though. We're calling for AB fixes, and pearl drop increases. Perhaps when the game finally reaches true BH vs Jedi status, we'll see some "real" specials and animations happening.
ZinaTheMaker wrote:
I do not believe that the marketing here was ethical, however, when you are looking to promote sales, I understand why SOE did it.
This all goes back to all the commotion that occured originally when this game was released, and people quoted the box they purchased as saying "and you can even become a jedi..." or something to that effect.
Regardless, what has happened has happened, and people who have followed the game, and these forums since the launch of this game should not be suprised at the slight of hand that SOE has pulled.
No flame here, just an unbiased view of the situation. Imagine going to the zoo every year. And in the advertisement, it says,"Come see Bingo, the talking donkey". Every year, you go to see Bingo and he's never there, or hes in the back taking a dump or whatever. Regardless, you never get to see this prize donkey. Does he exist? Supposedly. After 10 years of going with the promise of seeing him and never seeing him, you should get the point, which is that its not always as promised.
And where might I find this talking donkey? I have much to ask him. 
Seriously, BH's - go BUY a weapon, PAY to have it sliced and BUY some powerups.
Having a weapon that's by default the best every time you get it is a horrible choice to make for the game's economy and the enjoyment of the REST of this game's community. As an example, see how the weapons from RotW have affected this game.
Sorry they pulled a fast one on you, I think it's crap, too. But ultimately, just go find a good weapon crafted by someone and then you can pup it and slice it to your heart's content.
The gilding on the expansion has peeled off, revealed it's true self. Is it really that big of a surprise?
Message Edited by Warryyr on 10-28-2005 12:50 PM
-PheaR- wrote:
Blixtev wrote:
Are Dev's allowed to "QFE" ?
TheNarcis wrote:
You people need to read more into what he is saying, and what Julio said in the recent Dev Chat on MMORPG.com. It clearly gives the assumption there is 5-8 versions of each weapon, and that there may be better versions of that same item out there from bigger and badder bosses via loot.
Message Edited by TheNarcis on 10-28-2005 01:53 AM
First off, why are you being condescending?Secondly, why not just say "This isn't the only version available for this weapon. There are other versions available via loot. Keep looking."?
Lastly, I'm really glad I didn't get the expansion, now.
Because nerfing and trolling is all that Blixtev knows how to do.
So yeah, Blixtev, just how many versions of this weapon are there? Instead of trolling and saying "Can a dev QFE?" tell us how many different versions of these weapons there are, because the Friday Feature clearly makes it look like there is only 1 version for each of these weapons. I was looking forward to getting his weapon on my BH, as it would *really* make taking down these boss marks a lot easier.
Blixtev wrote:Not everything given as a quest reward will be a /pwnbbqjedionastick . Easy quests give lower quality items than harder quests or harder Boss's. When the Mustafar team asked for weaponry we gave them something like 5 - 8 versions of each weapon. Some will be better than others. I would guess anything that comes out so soon after the expansion opens isnt from the harder quests nor the big boss kills.
Judging stats from Frog testing weapons isn't a very good indication as all Frog weapons are set to exceed max stats in every way that a could never be made/looted.
Then take a look at this. Apparently, just spending a few hours grinding SL is /pwnbbqjedionastick on its own. I think you guys need to revise the CU as a whole, because everything you guys intended to do with the CU was failed with miserably. Making combat more engaging, getting rid of 1-shot-kills, making more than just a few templates viable in PvP and high end PvE, etc., etc.
I know this is the Bounty Hunter forums, I'm not trying to troll here, I have a BH as well that I play on a daily basis. This was so funny, that everyone in the video was laughing their ass off just as hard as possible, including myself. I had the video on loop all night last night just constantly laughing, my side is so sore today.
Message Edited by Mistwaver on 10-28-2005 01:20 PM
Do all of you realize that not one of you answered the people asking where this quest began? I don't know, or I'd tell them.
Also, to the person that asked where the quests are for the better versions of this weapon, my bet it's in the Cube, whatever the heck it's called.
There are about 300k combinations so it may be awhile before it's discovered