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Thread: Personal experience with the smack talkin munchkin part of the jedi prof

FeistySheister
Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:44 am
#1

Im tired of reffering to the jedi that smack talked their way into griefing generally. By 'griefing' i mean getting hunted because they didnt care about vis and got themselves back on the terms. Its not a myth that bh;s make up so that we can sleep better at night. This kind of stuff happens so much to random bh's that i only have 1 ss of it, it gets old. In the ss noah and i are bounty hunters in a town to shop. We run into 3 or 4 jedi who proceed to /slap /spit and proclaim their uberness. We did eventually end up dueling them, but what do you know, as soon as they started to hurt they ran into their cantina we were banned from. Uber indeed. I lost it at the /slap in the beginning, but this kind of stuff is what created the instances where i grabbed one persons mission specifically with the intent to make them lose xp, get an ss, and have them st-fu finally.why people learn to hate the smack talkin jedi




Salo was a 626k mission pre cu. In all his uberness he was never more than 20m away from a base, water, or cantina. Had to grab someone else for the extra kd just in case, went rebel, and luckily got him on tat by a base we could declare at. No it was not the perfect solo killing I always dreamed about and jedi seem to expect, but i did what i had to make sure he died despite his structure hiding, base sitting, water loving ways.



This one is of a person sent to spam crude bs about our bh guild in our city. Not a jedi himself, sent by a jedi that didnt like dying. No mission to grab, but it was handled anyway by dragging agro and triple incapping him. People dont need to be hired to run afk macros anymore with the addition of npc actors. Jedi are already all over that one, i have yet to see or hear of a bh returning that particular favor though.



This obviously does not represent the jedi prof as a whole. There are plenty of fabulous jedi, but stuff like this is what creates animosity and leads to 'grief' from the bh perspective.


*edit* clicky's acting up, im over it as long as the first one works

Message Edited by FeistySheister on 07-21-2005 12:30 PM



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FernGully
Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:47 am
#2

The proper response to these tards is /addIgnore. Not to grief them. Griefing is never excuseable, now matter how much of a tard the person in question is.

Message Edited by FernGully on 07-21-2005 02:48 PM



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FeistySheister
Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:48 am
#3

I didnt grief them, i killed him once. it just felt a whole lot better since he created drama. bah my clicky's are being retarded. Im just pointing out that stuff like this could drive anyone crazy enough to consider griefing, we dont make this stuff up to make ourselves feel better about what we do.

Message Edited by FeistySheister on 07-21-2005 11:51 AM



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[Quiet Observer] "Proud Supporter of /Kick 'em While They're Down" [Brain Ninja]
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FernGully
Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:54 am
#4

You went and got his mission and bountied him specifically because of a personal desire to cause him "pain". This is the definition of griefing, my friend.

I agree, he's a tool, but you should have /addIgnore'd.


EDIT: This type of behavior is very likely one of the primary drivers behind the changes that came in pub20.

Message Edited by FernGully on 07-21-2005 02:56 PM



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FernGully
Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:01 pm
#5

The reading between the lines I'm getting here from the OP is that "I miss being able to pick on people I don't like." You show us screenshots to try and show us why we shouldn't like them, and convince us that what you did was ok because we shouldn't like them either, and that you did it in a classy way, with no hate tells etc (tho that seems dubious from the ss).

But the truth of the matter is: you shouldn't be able to single out and pick on anyone in an MMO. The old bounty system enabled you to do it, and you did it, and now you don't like the label of "griefer" that goes with it. Well, sorry man, thats what it is, and thats one of the primary reasons you can't get player names from the terms anymore.



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Tight Goatfinger - Zabrak Teras Kasi Mystic
Waxen Wane - Reformed Force Choker of Gungans

Proud Intrepidean since Launch

"Luminous beings are we...not this crude matter."

FeistySheister
Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:06 pm
#6




Dlek_Krego wrote: I take it Salo is the Jedi in question for this thread, correct? Ok, if so, I have to laugh, because after reading the convo, I see smack talk flying from the BH's in the convo as well. So by posting this thread to prove how nasty and hated Jedi should be for smack-talking, then exactly HOW are the smack-talking BH's in this convo ANY better than the Jedi you are crying about? _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ "Salo, you are a disgrace to Jedi," SeepaTay says "Why don't you go for another swim you *cencored*tard coward" "I would say you are a disgrace to BH," Knobb Flbbirtigibett says. Salo Flyingdark say "I killed you already seepatay st*cencored*u." _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Sounds to me by THIS little bit of convo that it was the BH Seepatay who died, and is the one who is doing the most smack talk.... go figure.


Yeah.......after i sat there in silence watching their emotes fly i did eventually lose it, i already stated as much.Thats the purpose of posting the ss in the manner i did. If i wanted to censor it to make myself looklike a paragon of /slap taking virtue i would have edited it to be so.I also said that this stuff isnt unique to one side,ive never denied that bh's have their bastagees.We all have a breaking point, and that was mine.As i am not a jedi, i dont post from that perspective.And yes, he did kill me once before. Broken tef allowed him to run into the cantina and force regen, we also had a stalemate where he ran into the water and floated while i waited on the bank and wished i had a rifle to use use headshot. ( i was tkm at the time). Proved impossible to do without 2 people to constantly have a kd on him to keep him from running.OMFGH4XXBBQGRIEFER!!!!!! I KILLED A JEDI WHOS MISSION I PULLED!!

Message Edited by FeistySheister on 07-21-2005 01:08 PM



Seepatay Cleepa
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[Quiet Observer] "Proud Supporter of /Kick 'em While They're Down" [Brain Ninja]
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mindspat
Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:14 pm
#7






FernGully wrote:
The reading between the lines I'm getting here from the OP is that "I miss being able to pick on people I don't like." You show us screenshots to try and show us why we shouldn't like them, and convince us that what you did was ok because we shouldn't like them either, and that you did it in a classy way, with no hate tells etc (tho that seems dubious from the ss).

But the truth of the matter is: you shouldn't be able to single out and pick on anyone in an MMO. The old bounty system enabled you to do it, and you did it, and now you don't like the label of "griefer" that goes with it. Well, sorry man, thats what it is, and thats one of the primary reasons you can't get player names from the terms anymore.





Well fern, no matter how constructive you are it seems some ppl still lack the skills to to comprehend what their actions have forced upon the community. And you know, for the most part I'm glad this was instated to allow for a more balanced bounty system.


I'm looking forward to the dedicated players who keep MBH and leanr the system in their quest to continue hunting their marks...





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FeistySheister
Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:27 pm
#8

*sigh* When have i ever come here saying that i hate not pulling a specific persons mission? As long as its rebel, and not buggy its all good. Thats beside the point though. The next biggest thread topic has been why we as bh's and jedi hate on each other. Crap like this is why. I sat there and watched salo and his fanbois acting like douches and I snapped. Never before have i, and i havnt since. I had plenty of other instances of similar bs with other jedithat were ignored, but this one broke me for some reason. Im sitting here owning it, and yet thats not good enough. Im not agreeing that pulling a specific mission as the terms allowed was griefing so im obviously bh trash. Right on.



This whole thread got turned into some 'pulling a specific mission is griefing' 'omg salo killed you blah blah blah' thread. The point is being missed. We are human, and this kind of stuff will prompt an explosion from even the most well intentioned player.





Seepatay Cleepa
Forsaken Weetawd Decipherer of the Chawklet B.F.F. Mohof Code
-ELITIST IMPERIAL /FLO 6 MACRO LOVER-
[Quiet Observer] "Proud Supporter of /Kick 'em While They're Down" [Brain Ninja]
.: a z a l u s...m u r i s h i n i :.
FernGully
Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:34 pm
#9



FeistySheister wrote:

*sigh* When have i ever come here saying that i hate not pulling a specific persons mission? As long as its rebel, and not buggy its all good. Thats beside the point though. The next biggest thread topic has been why we as bh's and jedi hate on each other. Crap like this is why. I sat there and watched salo and his fanbois acting like douches and I snapped. Never before have i, and i havnt since. I had plenty of other instances of similar bs with other jedi that were ignored, but this one broke me for some reason. Im sitting here owning it, and yet thats not good enough. Im not agreeing that pulling a specific mission as the terms allowed was griefing so im obviously bh trash. Right on.

This whole thread got turned into some 'pulling a specific mission is griefing' 'omg salo killed you blah blah blah' thread. The point is being missed. We are human, and this kind of stuff will prompt an explosion from even the most well intentioned player.






And now that you can no longer "explode" by going to pull their mission and "griefing" them (your word from original post, not mine, man), you can do what you should have done in the first place: /addIgnore.

Its the only real, only sure way to deal with it, anyhow. Mostly, these stories of yours don't end the way you mention. They don't end, period. Its a constant cycle of you bounty him, he finds a way to get back at your, etc, etc.



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Waxen Wane - Reformed Force Choker of Gungans

Proud Intrepidean since Launch

"Luminous beings are we...not this crude matter."

FeistySheister
Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:49 pm
#10








FernGully wrote:





FeistySheister wrote:

*sigh* When have i ever come here saying that i hate not pulling a specific persons mission? As long as its rebel, and not buggy its all good. Thats beside the point though. The next biggest thread topic has been why we as bh's and jedi hate on each other. Crap like this is why. I sat there and watched salo and his fanbois acting like douches and I snapped. Never before have i, and i havnt since. I had plenty of other instances of similar bs with other jedi that were ignored, but this one broke me for some reason. Im sitting here owning it, and yet thats not good enough. Im not agreeing that pulling a specific mission as the terms allowed was griefing so im obviously bh trash. Right on.



This whole thread got turned into some 'pulling a specific mission is griefing' 'omg salo killed you blah blah blah' thread. The point is being missed. We are human, and this kind of stuff will prompt an explosion from even the most well intentioned player.







And now that you can no longer "explode" by going to pull their mission and "griefing" them (your word from original post, not mine, man), you can do what you should have done in the first place: /addIgnore.

Its the only real, only sure way to deal with it, anyhow. Mostly, these stories of yours don't end the way you mention. They don't end, period. Its a constant cycle of you bounty him, he finds a way to get back at your, etc, etc.





Nah that one did end. he killed me once, I stared at him in the water with no mind for an hour once, he proclaimed himself all powerful and discovered how to use emotes on me, then he died and went on /addignore. What cycle are you seeing? The only cycle im currently aware of his how you call me a griefer for having the nerve to use the terms as they were designed to be, i say no, enjoying it more because this guy is an ass was nice though, and so on and so forth. Oh and I used the word 'griefing' in quotes because i was being sarcastic in the first post, and im not a man


~~~Anyway, like i said, the one time in my history of being a bh that i had apredictable, vengefulresponse to getting sh!t on by a jerk and his friends. Meant to illustrate the things that lead up to the tension that exist now. Turned into you arguing your definition of griefer. I still dont subscribe to it, i still enjoyed killing that guy, and I still wonder why he bent me out of shape like no other.


Personally, one would think that settling this kind of crap by pulling the mission and being done with it would be a good thing. Just skip all the chat drama and throw down. Its the trash talk that cloudseveryones judgement and twists what their intentions should be.






Seepatay Cleepa
Forsaken Weetawd Decipherer of the Chawklet B.F.F. Mohof Code
-ELITIST IMPERIAL /FLO 6 MACRO LOVER-
[Quiet Observer] "Proud Supporter of /Kick 'em While They're Down" [Brain Ninja]
.: a z a l u s...m u r i s h i n i :.
BloodravenII
Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:13 pm
#11

Sorry, but I don't put any stock into screenshots which don't show the whole story.
MasterOfEverything
Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:46 pm
#12

lmfao wow...did that Jedi say "you are beneath me?"


And people wonder why theres Jedi hate....rofl



FeistySheister
Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:04 pm
#13





MasterOfEverything wrote:

lmfao wow...did that Jedi say "you are beneath me?"


And people wonder why theres Jedi hate....rofl









Yes...and as equally guilty as i am for responding to the jedi jerk triple threat, the responses have been all from jedi shifting the focus of this thread to make using the old term system an act of griefing. Getting a mission makes me a griefer, even on one so self proclaimed to be uber he obviously didnt have to worry right?Coincidence of salo being on the terms the day he decided to run his mouth does not a griefer make.Or my unedited ss not showing both sides...because i was obviously more concerned with making myself look right than the truth. If it was 3 bh's v 2 jedi that were getting harassed due to wrong place, wrong time circumstances all the jedi trolls would be reacting differently methinks.


For all the jedi trolls who think grabbing that mission and killing him once was 'terminal griefing' heres a link to the answer per our correspondent should you take the time to scroll down about 8 replies or so. The definition of terminal griefing. Killing him once = not griefing. Having that one time be the day he couldnt keep his mouth shut = Priceless.

Message Edited by FeistySheister on 07-21-2005 03:29 PM



Seepatay Cleepa
Forsaken Weetawd Decipherer of the Chawklet B.F.F. Mohof Code
-ELITIST IMPERIAL /FLO 6 MACRO LOVER-
[Quiet Observer] "Proud Supporter of /Kick 'em While They're Down" [Brain Ninja]
.: a z a l u s...m u r i s h i n i :.
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