Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Cover
Once again
COVER DOES NOTHING TO CONCEAL YOU FROM THE TARGET
IT ONLY RAISES YOUR RANGED DEFENSE.
comprende?
Ok Mr Crayon. Consealshot does the samething? My point if you read was that the mobs already spawned wont aggro but the new spawns would aggro at once. Dont you think this is a bug?
TygerBlueEyes wrote:
Ok Mr Crayon. Consealshot does the samething? My point if you read was that the mobs already spawned wont aggro but the new spawns would aggro at once. Dont you think this is a bug?
A) there are two other threads on the first page addressing cover, concealshot, and takecover.
B) if the creature spawns close enough to detect you by normal means other than you just shooting then yes it should attack you, if it is at a distance from you then no it shouldn't and is a bug, butI have never seen this personally
Message Edited by beamstalk on 04-09-2004 11:30 AM
beamstalk wrote:
TygerBlueEyes wrote:
Ok Mr Crayon. Consealshot does the samething? My point if you read was that the mobs already spawned wont aggro but the new spawns would aggro at once. Dont you think this is a bug?
A) there are two other threads on the first page addressing cover, concealshot, and takecover.
B) if the creature spawns close enough to detect you by normal means other than you just shooting then yes it should attack you, if it is at a distance from you then no it shouldn't and is a bug, butI have never seen this personally
Message Edited by beamstalk on 04-09-2004 11:30 AM
Mr. Crayon...LOL. but:
/agree with the Beamster.
You have to understand that we get at least a couple of posts a week witha question as to why things see them when they go into cover, and it does not matter how many times it is gently suggested that people need to read the description where it says that the skill adds to your defenses, but says nothing about hiding you. Therefore, please be grant us a little grace when, as Beamstalk did, we feel the need to emphasize that fact.
Either way, here are the factors you need to be aware of:
1. Cover, as stated, does nothing to hide you. It merely addes to your ranged defenses.
2. Concealshot does nothing to hide you. It merely prevents the target from autoresponding to your attack when you use Concealshot. Thus, it still can detect you and aggro on youby other means.
3.When you shoot something with Concealshot, you will still get a TEF, even though they do not "know" you are shooting them. This means that your chances of being aggroed increase some even if you use Concealshot because the target and its friends will be more aggressive towards you and aggression increases detection chances.
4. They added a concealment chance modifier a while back that gives riflemen a better chance of remaining undetected. The higher you are in the tree, the harder it is to detect you. This works with all the other detection checks, but never makes you invisible.
5. The change in December or there abouts made it so that, if a target has not aggroed on you because of the attack, then neither will the target's friends if it is a social mob. However, that does not mean that you cannot be attacked by the creatures friends just because you are using Concealshot and the target is not aggroed. They will all have their own checks against you andcan aggro on you even if the target does not.
Message Edited by Sotaudi on 04-09-2004 11:49 AM
It seems to me that cover bonus isn't being applied to fresh spawns in not at all or in the wrong order.
When you have multi spawns out and they dont aggro but when a fresh spawn comes out at the same range or even father and it agrros. Somethings a miss I think. See if this was happing at 20m or 30m I could start to understand it but at 50m to 60m I dont.