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Thread: Just a little proposal regarding the LRs

Nullified
Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:40 am
#1

It once was an issue that there was no high damage equivalent of this rifle, now we have it and I'd have a little suggestion for an improvement since I seldom use it myself and rarely see other bounty hunters using this – basically – fine weapon.
Instead, most favour the generic high-end energy Trandoshan rifles or kinetic weaponary to counter PSGs.

If I'm informed correctly, we will be seeing an electricity gun in the ToOW expansion which will deal mostly, if not only, electricity damage (I haven't seen a screenshot of it, yet) so I came up with the question why the damage type of our profession-specific weapon can't be changed to electricity; After all, it'd be a lot more logical since the LRs basically fire a bolt of lightning.



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shadowdragon2k
Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:55 am
#2






Nullified wrote:
It once was an issue that there was no high damage equivalent of this rifle, now we have it and I'd have a little suggestion for an improvement since I seldom use it myself and rarely see other bounty hunters using this – basically – fine weapon.
Instead, most favour the generic high-end energy Trandoshan rifles or kinetic weaponary to counter PSGs.

If I'm informed correctly, we will be seeing an electricity gun in the ToOW expansion which will deal mostly, if not only, electricity damage (I haven't seen a screenshot of it, yet) so I came up with the question why the damage type of our profession-specific weapon can't be changed to electricity; After all, it'd be a lot more logical since the LRs basically fire a bolt of lightning.




i see what you mean but lightning is still energy O_o same as heat is still energy.


so this ToOW rifle is like ONly elemental damage?




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Nullified
Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:04 am
#3

I don't know, that's just what a friend of mine told me and he hasn't been a bad source of information so far, so I kind of trust him.
The point is, why not change the LR damage class to electricity **edit** or greatly increase the amount of electrical damage done (maybe up to 150-200 to be on par with the slugthrower?) **edit** ? It is basically only electricity and though I see your point, your point would ultimatively mean that "kinetic" weapons also do energy damage since kinetic energy is, ultimatively, a form of energy.

/edit

Message Edited by Nullified on 10-16-2005 05:05 PM



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shadowdragon2k
Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:08 am
#4






Nullified wrote:
I don't know, that's just what a friend of mine told me and he hasn't been a bad source of information so far, so I kind of trust him.
The point is, why not change the LR damage class to electricity? It is basically only electricity and though I see your point, your point would ultimatively mean that "kinetic" weapons also do energy damage since kinetic energy is, ultimatively, a form of energy.





lets not get into this discussion because this will ultimatively end up with you being right and me haveing a head ache although. i think normal LR's should stay energy and the master version (HLC) should be turned into Pure elemental damage. (hmmmmm best not lower my HLC's damage capp then :smileysad




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Nullified
Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:13 am
#5

Nah, it'd be a wasteful discussion just because it's basically true at both ends.
It is energy, but since we have the class "electricity", we should use it more.
The same applies to flamethrowers, what's their damage dealing potential regarding fire damage (never been a Commando)?

I like your idea, though, to keep the LRs at mostly energy with just a slight electricity bonus and change the HLR to electricity.



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Corran85
Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:14 am
#6

the new ToOW rifle you are talking about, at least the one on TC has energy damage, and 6 electricity damage....wouldnt say that is 100% electricity damage....But you ahve a point, but if you were to make a HLR 100% electricity, it would get out of hand, energy or kinetic damage gets mitigated by your opponets defense, then to armor, electricity, acid, heat, etc...only gets mitigated by armor...saying you hit.
Nullified
Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:48 am
#7

Oh, that'd change a lot. Still, I'd like to see a vast improvement of electricity damage done by the HLR.
I mean come on, lightsabers do up to what? 125?

/edit
Not formulated too good..

I know about the mitigation issue, still, for realisms sake, I'd say the HLR _has_ to do only or nearly only electricity damage.

Message Edited by Nullified on 10-16-2005 08:51 PM



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Corran85
Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:18 pm
#8

Lightsabers will do probally up to almost 200, but the max damage on even a perfect lightsaber will be nowhere close to a rifle...it is a very differant weapon to compare to. And i know that some weapons can get high elemental, but teh only example i can give is nyms slug thrower at 175 acid.
Penguinzx
Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:29 pm
#9


I'm not really picky about whether the HLR become 100% electrical damage or not. All I would like to see is elemental damage get the proper damage modifier for the special used. This thing about hitting for 1800 energy damage /w 40 electrical damage in PvE is just silly. That pretty much makes the elemental damage a purely nominal nod to the HLR's "lightning" characteristic. I have a feeling elemental damage isn't working as intended though.It's just that the devs aren't sure what to do about it, because if they fix it Jedi immediately get a 25% damage boost, which may or may not be a good thing.



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Nullified
Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:43 pm
#10

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Lightsabers will do probally up to almost 200, but the max damage on even a perfect lightsaber will be nowhere close to a rifle...it is a very differant weapon to compare to. And i know that some weapons can get high elemental, but teh only example i can give is nyms slug thrower at 175 acid.
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Well, the problem where is that those 200 are not multiplied with 0.7 during PvP and thus largely increase the power of the jedi, but that's something totally off topic.

I second what Penguinzx says, electricity is only a "nominal" thing with our wonderful electricity weapon - and that's just plainly wrong.



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Algren_Earth-Stormer
Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:57 pm
#11

agreed, HLR is mostly useless for hunting jedi. It would be nice if it was given lower min/max damage by about 50-100 pts... and add that into electrical damage. But now we're just dreaming.



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shadowdragon2k
Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:02 pm
#12

you've ovbiously not seen my HLC now i admit i would absolutely LOVE more electricity damage just dont go messing with my current damage and were all good




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shadowdragon2k
Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:33 am
#13






Penguinzx wrote:

Agreed. As an MBH weapon it does seem a bit silly that it is nearly useless for hunting Jedi. Mine is damage and sac capped with a 55 accuracy bonus and I still have better luck chasing jedi around with my LD-1. Of course if Jedi weren't allowed to wear PSGs....




the HLC is only useless for some because anything over 250 more than your accuracy (for example if you got 500 accuracy and your fighting a Mdef stacker with 900 defence) then its your Min damage thats what your looking at rather than max. my HLC is about 658 Min damage and i do fine Vs anything and everything. in my opinon take it from the Max damage rather than min.




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