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Thread: kinetic dmg weapons vs energy dmg weapons

Tahjee
Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:59 pm
#1

i realize that jedi come equipped w PSG's like stormtroopers and bad aim.

Is the dmg output that much better with kinetic weapons as opposed to energy?

if i were a carbineer bh I should be using Nyms or another kinetic carb rather than a capped out E-11 or other high end energy carbine?

by the same token if I were a pistoleer bh would i be stuck using the obligatory capped out FWG5 rather than another weapon like ROTW loot?


thanks for your feedback.



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Lord-R
Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:12 pm
#2

i love using my fallen hyper rifle for the alpha strike. But when my action gets down to 1/5 i switch to my ALR.


yes the PSG sucks up a lot of your damage but if you sit there and do placed/ranged shot for a bit you will see that your damage will start going up. Once it levels out then start using your specials.


PSG's will stop absorbing damage after a bit. And it will be just like they didn't have one. So i would say its just up to you. Do you like the FWG5 more then your ROTW weapon?






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Ionbru
Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:09 am
#3






Lord-R wrote:

i love using my fallen hyper rifle for the alpha strike. But when my action gets down to 1/5 i switch to my ALR.


yes the PSG sucks up a lot of your damage but if you sit there and do placed/ranged shot for a bit you will see that your damage will start going up. Once it levels out then start using your specials.


PSG's will stop absorbing damage after a bit. And it will be just like they didn't have one. So i would say its just up to you. Do you like the FWG5 more then your ROTW weapon?







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GTSC5R
Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:02 am
#4


a good Nym's Slugthrower ftw


for whatever reason, i do between 2-3 times as much damage in pvp with my Nym's Slugthrower vs. my double capped Elite Carbine...... granted my Nym's is not ordinary but it doesn't match the Elite Stat wise.


Nym's 1.98 spd, 355-710 kinetic damage, 173 acid, 82 SAC ( 596 modded dps , i only use SAC pups ~57 )

Elite1.97 spd, 423-1063 energy damage, 73 SAC ( 628 modded dps, i only use SAC pups ~51)


Near as i can tell the main difference is the insane acid damage..... though i notice a little difference fightly somebody wearing assault vs. recon. I am MBH / MCM / carbines 0400...... anybody in this game that prefers carbines needs to seek out a nice Slugthrower.... you can continue to get them from Nym everytime you collect the two parts he asks for and the stats are random.





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SeDDoC
Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:44 am
#5

you can continue to get them from Nym everytime you collect the two parts he asks for and the stats are random.




Didn't they fix that?
Diversion
Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:48 am
#6






Lord-R wrote:

i love using my fallen hyper rifle for the alpha strike. But when my action gets down to 1/5 i switch to my ALR.


yes the PSG sucks up a lot of your damage but if you sit there and do placed/ranged shot for a bit you will see that your damage will start going up. Once it levels out then start using your specials.


PSG's will stop absorbing damage after a bit. And it will be just like they didn't have one. So i would say its just up to you. Do you like the FWG5 more then your ROTW weapon?







Does this mean that they can't be ADKed? I thought they could be even after CU.



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CrulenTheFish
Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:07 am
#7

I am currently hunting a Nym's i have a 615 damage nyms with 173 elemental. I have a E11? With 1100 Damage, both same speed with a pup, i couldn't establish which was best vs jedi lol i used the E11 against the non master defenders, vs force aura it rrrrips them! But the Nyms seemed to work on M Def marksO.O



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Dallow
Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:38 am
#8






CrulenTheFish wrote:
I am currently hunting a Nym's i have a 615 damage nyms with 173 elemental. I have a E11? With 1100 Damage, both same speed with a pup, i couldn't establish which was best vs jedi lol i used the E11 against the non master defenders, vs force aura it rrrrips them! But the Nyms seemed to work on M Def marksO.O






I would agree with this, while not a MCarb, I do have enough to make Nym's practical. Perhaps, MDefs make you miss just enough so that their PSGs have time to regen between hits. I believethe best Nym you could find is around 357-714, 174 acid damage, and 2.25 speed.






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Lord-R
Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:39 am
#9






Diversion wrote:

Does this mean that they can't be ADKed? I thought they could be even after CU.






yes they CAN be ADK'ed but that will not help.


when you shot someone wearing a PSG there is a small number that will start dropping. (I think its Efficany. ) anyways once this number dropslow enough it will STOPreduceing the damage being dealt to the person wearing it and you as the attacker will be doing full damage.


theeffects of the PSG only last about 2mins if your constantly getting shoot at. Afterwards the person being shoot at needs to find cover so that his PSG can recharge.


that's were the regeneration rate on your PSG comes to play, the higher the number the faster it can recharge itself and once again reduce damage from a Energy weapon.



so this is what i do. Pull out my Kinetic rifle for the alpha strike. Pump him/her full of lead till my action gets to about 1/5th. Switch to my ALR (if i haven't incaped him by then) and just do placed/ranged shoot till my action is back to full and i see my damage start to climb (due to the fact that the PSG is losing its effectiveness) once my damage levels out i commence to use my specials and inflict maximum damage.


the ONLY thing a ADK will do is prevent the PSG from Decaying.




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Lord-R
Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:44 am
#10

Oh yeah what Dallow said is something you need to pay attention to if your going to use a Energy based weapon and try to do what i just described above.


you run into a MLS/Mdef your going to miss so much or have it blocked that this technique will not work in killing his/her PSG. thats when you should stick with a Kin based weapon.






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Danto1
Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:37 am
#11

Bowcaster is kinetic, I have damaged capped ones at 1183 (ish, I forget) and mod speed 1.7 ish. Very very nice to play with against most Jedi.



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GTSC5R
Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:28 pm
#12


i checked earlier this month ( october ).... you can still get as many nym's as you want provided you get the parts and give them to Nym. Also, as far as stats go. I have seen a thread in the carbineer forum where a lot of players listed the stats for the slugthrowers. These are the best individual unsliced stats i saw and no gun have more than two of them. 2.17 speed, 360-720 kinetic damage, 175 acid damage, 80 SAC.



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Gillik
Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:55 pm
#13






Danto1 wrote:
Bowcaster is kinetic, I have damaged capped ones at 1183 (ish, I forget) and mod speed 1.7 ish. Very very nice to play with against most Jedi.





Friend of mine has some freakishly powerful bowcasters. One with over 1500 max damage.






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