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Thread: Respec

mrubino723
Fri Aug 08, 2003 1:17 am
#1

i lost 22 jedi points and never got a warning. this is total now because they have a product that doesnt work properly, we have to suffer? the straws keep piling up and the camel's back is going to break very soon...
Awik
Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:20 pm
#2


IF we do get a respec (its leaning that way, TH), I would like to ask anyone that has Master Powers and Force Run2 a question. Is the Power special dmg reduced while doin force run 2 or 3? I know that lightsaber dmg is reduced. I'm having a blast with MLS/MD 4004 Enhancer (cant beat a jedi with novice brawler though), thanks to JessieJames19's advice. Anyways, i'm playing my jedi for FUN, and what really looks fun is MP/MD 4004 Enhancer. People who says we need 4004 Healing is overrated, but thats my opinion. Please post if u do have MP/4004enhancer.


Does FR2 mitigate the damage output of Power Specials such as Lightning??

Message Edited by Awik on 03-22-2005 12:53 AM



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KyleKnox
Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:25 pm
#3

well thats rare, b/c you can only gain xp with an LS.


Also without heal 4004, anyone that has KD/Dizzy (which is EVERY MLS) has an instant I win button on you...


Unless things change, the DPS for powers just isnt there.



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Drokar
Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:30 pm
#4

im not positive cuz i dont have master powers... but do u? How do u know that we dont get xp w/o a saber? what do u think was the point of a 2nd offensive jedi mastery? If you kill a quenker using nothing but force lightning u dont get jedi xp? I think not.

But i do not think that Powers was meant to be the first method of jedi grinding seeing as how u dont get mindblast or lighting til u get a full box, and the force cost is high.



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Awik
Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:30 pm
#5






KyleKnox wrote:

well thats rare, b/c you can only gain xp with an LS.


Also without heal 4004, anyone that has KD/Dizzy (which is EVERY MLS) has an instant I win button on you...


Unless things change, the DPS for powers just isnt there.




The people that cant get up from KD/Dizzy are people lacking dizzy defense, master defender has +65, plus ithorian mist, thats 85+, i dont have a problem getting up from it. I never did.




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Awik
Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:31 pm
#6






Drokar wrote:
im not positive cuz i dont have master powers... but do u? How do u know that we dont get xp w/o a saber? what do u think was the point of a 2nd offensive jedi mastery? If you kill a quenker using nothing but force lightning u dont get jedi xp? I think not.

But i do not think that Powers was meant to be the first method of jedi grinding seeing as how u dont get mindblast or lighting til u get a full box, and the force cost is high.





I'm relying on the respec, not actually gonna grind it out again.



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Vcardossk
Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:33 pm
#7


Drokar wrote:
im not positive cuz i dont have master powers... but do u? How do u know that we dont get xp w/o a saber? what do u think was the point of a 2nd offensive jedi mastery? If you kill a quenker using nothing but force lightning u dont get jedi xp? I think not.

But i do not think that Powers was meant to be the first method of jedi grinding seeing as how u dont get mindblast or lighting til u get a full box, and the force cost is high.





Um, you do get xp for using only powers, i've done it. Not getting jedi xp for using only powers, i think not. Stuff your stupid speculation when you know jack about the subject.

I loved to use it as a lair buster b4 i got devrish, doing up to 16k on milked lairs. It just isn't practical due to speed and force cost. I do think master powers should be an alternative to mls as long as you have basic saber skills.


as for no healing, that's just plain stupid in almost all pve and all pvp. IF you plan on running like a pansy 24/7 then yeah it might work, but the second you get your a$$ on the floor your dead. Avoid incap is 700 force for 30seconds of not being able to be killed, u can use that 10 times assumeing you do no attack speciels with a dual mastery.

Message Edited by Vcardossk on 03-21-2005 09:34 PM



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Awik
Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:46 pm
#8






Vcardossk wrote:




Drokar wrote:
im not positive cuz i dont have master powers... but do u? How do u know that we dont get xp w/o a saber? what do u think was the point of a 2nd offensive jedi mastery? If you kill a quenker using nothing but force lightning u dont get jedi xp? I think not.

But i do not think that Powers was meant to be the first method of jedi grinding seeing as how u dont get mindblast or lighting til u get a full box, and the force cost is high.







Um, you do get xp for using only powers, i've done it. Not getting jedi xp for using only powers, i think not. Stuff your stupid speculation when you know jack about the subject.

I loved to use it as a lair buster b4 i got devrish, doing up to 16k on milked lairs. It just isn't practical due to speed and force cost. I do think master powers should be an alternative to mls as long as you have basic saber skills.


as for no healing, that's just plain stupid in almost all pve and all pvp. IF you plan on running like a pansy 24/7 then yeah it might work, but the second you get your a$$ on the floor your dead. Avoid incap is 700 force for 30seconds of not being able to be killed, u can use that 10 times assumeing you do no attack speciels with a dual mastery.

Message Edited by Vcardossk on 03-21-2005 09:34 PM



Before i picked MLS/MD/4004Enh, I thought the same thing. Until u haved actually played this template, u dont have the best understanding of it, just speculation. All i asked iswill FR2 mitigate the dmg output of Power Moves. Again, i'm playing my jedifor FUN, not to be uber or climb up force ranks. Besides how manyKnights are out there that PvP or PvE alone?

Message Edited by Awik on 03-21-2005 11:48 PM



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Vcardossk
Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:49 pm
#9



Awik wrote:


Vcardossk wrote:

Drokar wrote:
im not positive cuz i dont have master powers... but do u? How do u know that we dont get xp w/o a saber? what do u think was the point of a 2nd offensive jedi mastery? If you kill a quenker using nothing but force lightning u dont get jedi xp? I think not.

But i do not think that Powers was meant to be the first method of jedi grinding seeing as how u dont get mindblast or lighting til u get a full box, and the force cost is high.





Um, you do get xp for using only powers, i've done it. Not getting jedi xp for using only powers, i think not. Stuff your stupid speculation when you know jack about the subject.

I loved to use it as a lair buster b4 i got devrish, doing up to 16k on milked lairs. It just isn't practical due to speed and force cost. I do think master powers should be an alternative to mls as long as you have basic saber skills.


as for no healing, that's just plain stupid in almost all pve and all pvp. IF you plan on running like a pansy 24/7 then yeah it might work, but the second you get your a$$ on the floor your dead. Avoid incap is 700 force for 30seconds of not being able to be killed, u can use that 10 times assumeing you do no attack speciels with a dual mastery.

Message Edited by Vcardossk on 03-21-2005 09:34 PM


Before i picked MLS/MD/4004Enh, I thought the same thing. Until u haved actually played this template, u dont have the best understanding of it, just speculation. All i asked is if MP/FR2 will mitigate the dmg output of Power Moves. Again, i'm playing my jedi for FUN, not to be uber or climb up force ranks. Besides how many Knights are out there that PvP or PvE alone?






yes, but you obvioulsy haven't played powers. Your obviously lackign an understanding of how powers works. You wont be able to take on anything in pve really, or at least quickly especially if it's an npc. Powers is meant to go hand in hand with sabers, not by itself. Quite simply, based off my expierience with powers this wont be a very good template to pick.



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hamhamthe3rd
Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:27 am
#10

i think what he was asking was does the damage penalty for using fr2 and 3 apply to power attacks. i think thats the only thing hes interested in knowing.
Awik
Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:50 pm
#11

Bump, hoping for answers.



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Xey
Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:12 pm
#12

Lightning and choke are reduced if force run 2 or 3 are active. They are completely worthless once either of those two enhancers skills are active.



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Awik
Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:25 pm
#13


ahh, thanks for clearing things up Xey. Have u tried this urself?



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