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Thread: DEV QUOTE: Re: Jedi Mission Changes

Auraboron
Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:12 pm
#1

"The patch notes that were put up were only partial, so you missed a few of them. For clarity's sake until pub 20 is pushed to Test. Names will now translate into "Rebel Jedi", "Imperial Jedi", "Neutral Jedi". Missions will only be generated if the target is online at the time, this doesnt guarantee they dont log for dinner, etc. At least you know they are online at the time of mission generation. There is also a fairly significant one in there were once the BH attacks(even if the Jedi doesn't fight back), the TEF flag is set and prevents Jedi from doing things that TEF's prevent, like entering houses." - Blixtev






So, we will know what faction they are, and even if they are neutral


We will also know they were online when the mission was acquired.


TEFs will be fixed.


Only thing missing is payout info it sounds like.






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Aeschyl
Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:15 pm
#2

i still dont like how this smells
PantherXVI
Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:17 pm
#3

it also doesn't say if we would have any idea of the difficulty of the jedi



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Nails1
Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:18 pm
#4

As a Jedi the TEF issue hurts bad.


I understand the lameness of house dropping and running in when the BH attacks - that is lame.


But running to my house that has been there for over a year while I'm hunting out of my remote town on Dantooine is pretty harsh.


This isn't all good for the Jedi...


_Apache
Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:19 pm
#5

Could I get a link to these posts?



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PantherXVI
Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:23 pm
#6

I personally am glad for the tef finally being put into place, especially after I fought a 205k mark who kept running into his house every 5 minutes to regen his force. I eventually took a pay-off from him cause I didn't feel like being there for hours on end.



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SamousNemo
Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:46 pm
#7






Auraboron wrote:

"The patch notes that were put up were only partial, so you missed a few of them. For clarity's sake until pub 20 is pushed to Test. Names will now translate into "Rebel Jedi", "Imperial Jedi", "Neutral Jedi". Missions will only be generated if the target is online at the time, this doesnt guarantee they dont log for dinner, etc. At least you know they are online at the time of mission generation. There is also a fairly significant one in there were once the BH attacks(even if the Jedi doesn't fight back), the TEF flag is set and prevents Jedi from doing things that TEF's prevent, like entering houses." - Blixtev






So, we will know what faction they are, and even if they are neutral


We will also know they were online when the mission was acquired.


TEFs will be fixed.


Only thing missing is payout info it sounds like.








This has to be a f*cking joke, right?


I had assumed this would eventually get pushed, but I was really hoping it would be done so after the Kash situation had been resolved.


So considering that I need a name to find the 80% of my marks... how exactly am I supposed to get paid?




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Biirta-Baadu
Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:05 pm
#8

haha isnt it obvious by now that they dont want you to find a mark on kash and that it is 'working as intended'? (psst, SOE makes more mula this way)


what he said:
'end game' and let the g-hey jedi wars ensue.
Kellindell
Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:37 pm
#9

Wow, i had no idea about the kashyk thing, no wonder thier are so many jedi on terminals, had i known that, i wouldnt have re bought this game to play it again, what a waste of money.


Farenheit, thier is something your failing to miss.


People who play jedi, arent doing it right. People complain cause Jedi who take part in the GCW get ganked, or blah blah blah. GUESS WHAT YOUR A JEDI ! in episode 4 5 and 6 how many jedi did you see in the GCW? 1 ! how many people knew he was a jedi? pretty much zero because for the most part he didnt even know.


If your a jedi you get to be something so awesome, but it comes at a cost. The hands down fact of the matter is, if your up on the boards, you deserve to die. Thats it, If you dont want to be on the boards, then play a jedi the way they are supposed to be played, in secret. If you dont wanna be killed by BH, if you dont want forced PvP, you wanna not be secretive etc etc THEN DONT BE A JEDI.


Its why im not one, i dont really want to put up with all that garbage. But if these changes go through, you better beleive im getting straight to the village, buying my FS boxes, Getting on a ship to kashyk and grinding out jedi. Thats assuming i dont quit the game for a third time because SOE cant get thier act together.


Jedi is a give take situation. You take all the super crack nasty abilities jedi get, you TAKE the coolness of being a jedi. And changes are in the case of most jedi you TAKE the integrity out of the game by running around public places light saber blazing when its not supposed to be like that.


And pretty much with all that taking, you give up the rights and privileges of a normal player. Whena normal player attacks something, he doesnt risk getting forced into PvP. But at the end of the day, that normal player doesnt get to look at his lighter saber, look at his robes, and look at the fact he just threw lightening from his hands and say "darn, im a jedi, thats pretty cool".



SOE gives into the whiners and complainers, that what this change is coming from. People are buying their game with the promise of becoming Jedi, and they want money, so their giving in. If anyone started this game the first day it came out like i did, you were under the impression if one person per server became a jedi that would be a lot. So much for that dream.


After these changes go into effect their is no point in hunting jedi.


1) if thier on Kash, youll never find them. ( again i wanna mention i had no clue about this idiotic part of the game)


2) If they go offline you have no way to tell, and you waste droids and time, and have to go back to the BH terminal and start over


3)You could get thier, and not wanna hunt your mark for some reason. Maybe its your RL little brother, maybe its aguild mate, maybe its a padawn and you spare them, or see number 2, maybe he logged. People arent going to go through the trouble for thier to be no reason at all.


And im sure thier are other reasons im not covering.


Slowly but surely SOE took away the difficulty of being a jedi. This takes the cake of all thier changes though. Thier is no reason not to run around buck wild with your light saber spewing the blood of your enemy, because you know those BH terminals are gathering dust because its just to big a pain to hunt jedi.


Heck this is gonna even hurt some jedi too, the ones who sit in theed and use thier powers on purpose so people come hunt them. You cant go specifically hunt your mark anymore, so they wont bother.


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This also takes all the integrity out of the hunt/game. Who takes a mark on someone, and doesnt know who they are?


Better yet, who hires you to kill someone, but they dont know who it is or why? WHO DOES THAT?


So if givign free reign for jedi to run around and do whatever they want wasint runing the story line and integrity of SWG as it was....now the people on the other side of the coin, the BH side of the coin lose all continuity because their entire job stopped making sense.



Jedi are public enemy number one, but yet it seems the empire is taking any means possible to make sure they dont die.


yeah that makes sense.





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Hasun
Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:45 pm
#10






Auraboron wrote:

"The patch notes that were put up were only partial, so you missed a few of them. For clarity's sake until pub 20 is pushed to Test. Names will now translate into "Rebel Jedi", "Imperial Jedi", "Neutral Jedi". Missions will only be generated if the target is online at the time, this doesnt guarantee they dont log for dinner, etc. At least you know they are online at the time of mission generation. There is also a fairly significant one in there were once the BH attacks(even if the Jedi doesn't fight back), the TEF flag is set and prevents Jedi from doing things that TEF's prevent, like entering houses." - Blixtev






So, we will know what faction they are, and even if they are neutral


We will also know they were online when the mission was acquired.


TEFs will be fixed.


Only thing missing is payout info it sounds like.







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ther34p
Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:13 am
#11






DarthSillyPants wrote:

I hope they rais up the cred output onnpc missions.If the CL of the marks are going up, if i heard correctly, they payout should too.LOL the npc missions make me feel like a normal BH hunting real criminalsand lowlife scum.


It helps the economy too.






I prefer the NPC's missions too. More though because it's an I win mission, that mark is going down. I would like for them to add a little bit of variety to the mission, like say sometimes you get there, and well the mark is not alone, he has 5 level 80's standing around him or something. Sure you can still whack only the mark, but the agro chance around him is going to increase the fun a little.


I'd also like to see BH having missions in specific locations, maybe a bounty for 250k on the NS elder in the stronghold, or necrosis. Perhaps some in places where you have to do more quests to get in, like the Kash hunting grounds (would have to be static WP of course.)


Finally, a timer on all missions, Jedi or not." I want person XX dead by this time tommorrow you hear? DEAD. Fail me and the consequences will be dire..."





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Tower31
Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:02 pm
#12



about the possible TEF system...i think thats a crock also...Anyone remember when(im not sure if its the same now),the only way the Jedi would get a TEF,is if he fought back?I think it should STAY that way


Once a jedi makes a decision to stand his ground and fight a BH(i personally know ALOT of jedi on Interpid who would much prefer to stand and fight then turn and run),he loses his ability to turn tail and run into a house.But jedi who refuses to be part of someone elses content,should have the chance to NOT fight it out,and run away to safety


All this change does is give BHs another way to grief lower level paddys


About jedi only being hunted by MBHs,,,its about time.


When i ground out MBH along time ago,i wore that title with pride,I didnt do any of this dabbling crap..It actually made me feel likea BH when could get the jedi missions(only INV 3,,kinda lame),and the title was(well before all the respec kiddies) not seen very often on most servers cause noone wanted to grind out the INV tree.


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Hnglka
Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:04 pm
#13






Tower31 wrote:

about the possible TEF system...i think thats a crock also...Anyone remember when(im not sure if its the same now),the only way the Jedi would get a TEF,is if he fought back?I think it should STAY that way


Once a jedi makes a decision to stand his ground and fight a BH(i personally know ALOT of jedi on Interpid who would much prefer to stand and fight then turn and run),he loses his ability to turn tail and run into a house.But jedi who refuses to be part of someone elses content,should have the chance to NOT fight it out,and run away to safety


All this change does is give BHs another way to grief lower level paddys





I tend to agree with you on the no engagement no tef stance, but it also seems that if you can run and break contact for 2.5 minutes you can enter a building. Easier than the 5 minutes that was intended, but still it doesnt give the Jedi the option of "just saying no"




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