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Thread: *** JEDI VS BOUNTY HUNTER -- RISK = REWARD *** (updated)
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Aliman
Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:21 am
#1
Well...
JEDI VS BOUNTY HUNTER - Risk = reward
* When a bounty hunter killes a jedi there is a penalty for jedi. He loses xp. Bounty hunter gets good pay and we got us self
/crying jedi who have lost his xp.
* Due to lost xp many jedi run from BH from different reasons. Reason 1. They are padawan and they dont want to lose xp.
Reason 2. They dont want to be content for BH.
What we need here people is FRS system for BH.
First of all. On terminals there should be 2 choses of mission, Player and NPC. -reason will comm lower bellow.
Let's say like when new BH gets to his master box.
He starts off with +25 out of 50 FRS points. Which will allow him to hunt players. (reason why of +25 FRS points becouse of inv.)
IF his FRS getts bellow 20 or 15he is not able to hunt players. If he at any time loses/aborts his mission 2 or 3 times in a raw, he is placed on BH terminals him self. That's why there should be only 2 types of mission selection Player and NPC. That way as a BH you will not know if that is a jedi or bh you are hunting. It's just a mission like any other mission and this will proventabuse of this.
IF a bounty hunter is killed by jedi he loses3 points of FRS.
IF a bounty hunter is killed by BH he loses2 points of FRS.
BH gains 1 FRS point for 1 successfullmission incl. successfull npc mission.
IF a bounty hunter is killed by npc that should only count as loss of mission and will not have loss of points.(3 losses = bh on term.)
When a BH killes a BHhe gets mission payout + loot. Lootwould be as from NPC today with a little bit higher drop rate of good loot.
When a BH killes a Jedi he gets mission payout + loot. Loot would be some more awarding then regular NPC loot with a little bit higher drop rate then npc mission have today.
I belive with this system this will provent the abuse of loot system. And will give risk = reward.
For jedi:
If jedi successfully killes a bh he will be able to loot good/premium pearl/crystal of a that BH.
If a BH is at higher points of BH FRS you will get higher chance to loot premium or even flawless.
Loot drop should be at level of krayatt drop today with a little higher drop rate.
If a bh is low level player hunter he will drop lower loot, if a bh is high level player hunter he will drop higher loot.
Drop rate just needs to find some kind of balance.
I belive this will give some more content for jedi and reason to fight.
This is just a tought. Meaby you can fill in with something that's god or bad.
Thanks
ps! sorry for my bad english
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When Jedi FRS is enabled. Lets say that you are able to loot some awsome +25 ca or aa from jedi master. They are players too. They /duel and do other crazy stuff so they can easy be killed when they are low on force or when they are hevely damaged. And by getting one of this +25 ca or aa is something i would love.
Be it more like if you kill padawan you get loot but nothing special. You get like credits + NPC loot
If you kill a knight you will get credits and some better loot then NPC
If you kill some higher ranking jedi you get better loot.
At some point this should be stoped like with "no trade" option. so it dont get abused.
I would have loved to easy sneak up and kill jedi master and loot +25 rifle speed or accuracy, or healing or what ever.
Think about it this is all about risk = reward.
Message Edited by Aliman on 10-18-2005 05:26 PM
Phazaar
Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:28 am
#2
I didnt know BH's used the force.... FRS = force ranking system i believe..... However, I would have to say although there are some meritable points here, theres a lot of big no-nos too imho.... For example, why is a BH carrying krayt pearls or crystals lol. They wanna keep some realism in the game - hence why acklay bones dont drop from ATSTs - so I think the rewards system should be rethought. I think jedi should get no reward than their own survival for killing a BH. Stick a perma agro on them till they finish the fight, that'd convince them 
Aliman
Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:57 am
#3
Well i personaly have both. I have a jedi and bh.
I refuse to be BH content with my jedi as many of my jedi targets when im hunting them with my bh.
So when you think like that there is nothing moreto expectthen +root+ and force run. /logout
Cheers
Hydro_Ponic
Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:02 am
#4
Jedi = reward
being hunted by BHs = drawback to the reward
If you try to avoid combat by more or less legit tricks, they'll sooner or later close that venue and you'll have to fight. There are too many Jedi as it is fooling around in Theed or whatever the hotspot on your server is. They fouled up the profession and the unlocking path from the first and since then they try outrunning their own mistakes.
When they announced Jedi they talked about the exciting and adventurous path to jedi - right. Most adventure you get is when you gotta drive to walmart for a new mouse because the last one died during permagrind.
being hunted by BHs = drawback to the reward
If you try to avoid combat by more or less legit tricks, they'll sooner or later close that venue and you'll have to fight. There are too many Jedi as it is fooling around in Theed or whatever the hotspot on your server is. They fouled up the profession and the unlocking path from the first and since then they try outrunning their own mistakes.
When they announced Jedi they talked about the exciting and adventurous path to jedi - right. Most adventure you get is when you gotta drive to walmart for a new mouse because the last one died during permagrind.
Thassk
Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:08 am
#5
Aliman wrote:
Well i personaly have both. I have a jedi and bh.
I refuse to be BH content with my jedi as many of my jedi targets when im hunting them with my bh.
So when you think like that there is nothing moreto expectthen +root+ and force run. /logout
Cheers
ya but most likely your BH doesnt hunt jedi .. but is a attachment farmer ... as most jedi BH's are ...and i aint saying its wrong .... but you cant really claim to understand the perspective of a person who plays a BH as their main ..
im all for a BH ranking system ... as long as the higher ranks give us more power same as the jedi's get .. im all for grinding an elite BH template above master bounty hunter ... im all for working just as hard as jedi to get my toon at a higher level ...
but the thing is ... will soe ever do it? if they raise the bar with BH ... more epople flock flock to the proffession and/or jedi and the rest of the classes will suffer more ...
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-18-2005 04:10 AM
Akast
Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:17 am
#6
i think this idea is pretty good though, i dunno about the loot thing, and getting1 point for killing an npc is too much. and when the bh gets higher he should get more powerfull,
like kill 20 jedi rank 1
kill 50 jedi rank 2
kill 80 jedi rank 3
kill 150 jedi rank 4
Kill 200 jedi final rank
you get more powerfull like jedi as u get up ranks.
Aliman
Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:18 am
#7
Thassk wrote:
Aliman wrote:
Well i personaly have both. I have a jedi and bh.
I refuse to be BH content with my jedi as many of my jedi targets when im hunting them with my bh.
So when you think like that there is nothing moreto expectthen +root+ and force run. /logout
Cheers
ya but most likely your BH doesnt hunt jedi .. but is a attachment farmer ... as most jedi BH's are ...and i aint saying its wrong .... but you cant really claim to understand the perspective of a person who plays a BH as their main ..
im all for a BH ranking system ... as long as the higher ranks give us more power same as the jedi's get .. im all for grinding an elite BH template above master bounty hunter ... im all for working just as hard as jedi to get my toon at a higher level ...
but the thing is ... will soe ever do it? if they raise the bar with BH ... more epople flock flock to the proffession and/or jedi and the rest of the classes will suffer more ...
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-18-2005 04:10 AM
Actually. I'm doing nothing more then hunt jedi with my bh. But as you can see once a bh are getting into risk of losing something they love they start to panic and dont want accept something where they could be victom of something. Instead of that let the jedi cry while we adk our guns/armor and just blast around like cowboys. I mean common. Its nice for you to have some content, but give jedi some content too. If you read that post cosly you can see that bh are rewarded too. And since this have some kind of BH-FRS system that means that all respec bh and noobs that never grinded anything will be mostly affected by this, while experienced bh would take this with open arms. This will give them something to struggle for. This will bring back some of excaitment.
I got mission on an awsome jedi on my server. I stalked him and stalked him. I was planing to get him when he was most volunebar. But then i needed to run to do something in my private life. Soo i just decided. WTH lets attack. I dided of course, but i didnt care. Nothing decayed or anything. It was just a loss and i didnt need to ride 5000m back to starport. Well if i had something like this system this will definitly not make me do stuff like i did there.
Thassk
Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:56 am
#8
Aliman wrote:
Actually. I'm doing nothing more then hunt jedi with my bh. But as you can see once a bh are getting into risk of losing something they love they start to panic and dont want accept something where they could be victom of something. Instead of that let the jedi cry while we adk our guns/armor and just blast around like cowboys. I mean common. Its nice for you to have some content, but give jedi some content too. If you read that post cosly you can see that bh are rewarded too. And since this have some kind of BH-FRS system that means that all respec bh and noobs that never grinded anything will be mostly affected by this, while experienced bh would take this with open arms. This will give them something to struggle for. This will bring back some of excaitment.
I got mission on an awsome jedi on my server. I stalked him and stalked him. I was planing to get him when he was most volunebar. But then i needed to run to do something in my private life. Soo i just decided. WTH lets attack. I dided of course, but i didnt care. Nothing decayed or anything. It was just a loss and i didnt need to ride 5000m back to starport. Well if i had something like this system this will definitly not make me do stuff like i did there.
well i stand corrected then in regards to your jedi hunting ... but you must also realize we dont posess more powerful templates to advocate gaining risk ... contrary to popular jedi belief, i can constructother templates FAR superior in PVP to anything with master BH, using regular elite proffessions..
so ill take the risk as i said .. if theres actually reward ... the measely 250k i make from jedi is NOT worth the time from a monetary standpoint .. i cant hunt GDK scales get a drop of 6 and make 3 million right there ... i can hunt NPC's for attachments .. dragons for pearls .. high end mobs for attachments .. the jedi hunter's motivation is rarely $$ but more so the simple desire to RP murdering a jedi ... ( whether they claim to be rp'ers or not),, its more for the hunt and fight than for the money ..
take jedi payments out totally and you will still see BH ... if we are to carry the burden of risk on our backs as jedi do .. we should also carry the feeling of entitlement to template power the jedi do ..
Aliman
Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:23 am
#9
Thassk wrote:
Aliman wrote:
Actually. I'm doing nothing more then hunt jedi with my bh. But as you can see once a bh are getting into risk of losing something they love they start to panic and dont want accept something where they could be victom of something. Instead of that let the jedi cry while we adk our guns/armor and just blast around like cowboys. I mean common. Its nice for you to have some content, but give jedi some content too. If you read that post cosly you can see that bh are rewarded too. And since this have some kind of BH-FRS system that means that all respec bh and noobs that never grinded anything will be mostly affected by this, while experienced bh would take this with open arms. This will give them something to struggle for. This will bring back some of excaitment.
I got mission on an awsome jedi on my server. I stalked him and stalked him. I was planing to get him when he was most volunebar. But then i needed to run to do something in my private life. Soo i just decided. WTH lets attack. I dided of course, but i didnt care. Nothing decayed or anything. It was just a loss and i didnt need to ride 5000m back to starport. Well if i had something like this system this will definitly not make me do stuff like i did there.
well i stand corrected then in regards to your jedi hunting ... but you must also realize we dont posess more powerful templates to advocate gaining risk ... contrary to popular jedi belief, i can constructother templates FAR superior in PVP to anything with master BH, using regular elite proffessions..
so ill take the risk as i said .. if theres actually reward ... the measely 250k i make from jedi is NOT worth the time from a monetary standpoint .. i cant hunt GDK scales get a drop of 6 and make 3 million right there ... i can hunt NPC's for attachments .. dragons for pearls .. high end mobs for attachments .. the jedi hunter's motivation is rarely $$ but more so the simple desire to RP murdering a jedi ... ( whether they claim to be rp'ers or not),, its more for the hunt and fight than for the money ..
take jedi payments out totally and you will still see BH ... if we are to carry the burden of risk on our backs as jedi do .. we should also carry the feeling of entitlement to template power the jedi do ..
Let's say like when new BH gets to his master box.
He starts off with +25 out of 50 FRS points. Which will allow him to hunt players. (reason why of +25 FRS points becouse of inv.)
IF his FRS getts bellow 20 or 15he is not able to hunt players. If he at any time loses/aborts his mission 2 or 3 times in a raw, he is placed on BH terminals him self. That's why there should be only 2 types of mission selection Player and NPC. That way as a BH you will not know if that is a jedi or bh you are hunting. It's just a mission like any other mission and this will proventabuse of this.
IF a bounty hunter is killed by jedi he loses3 points of FRS.
IF a bounty hunter is killed by BH he loses2 points of FRS.
BH gains 1 FRS point for 1 successfullmission incl. successfull npc mission.
IF a bounty hunter is killed by npc that should only count as loss of mission and will not have loss of points.(3 losses = bh on term.)
When a BH killes a BHhe gets mission payout + loot. Lootwould be as from NPC today with a little bit higher drop rate of good loot.
When a BH killes a Jedi he gets mission payout + loot. Loot would be some more awarding then regular NPC loot with a little bit higher drop rate then npc mission have today.
I belive with this system this will provent the abuse of loot system. And will give risk = reward.
If you read that what i have highlited with red letters. you will see that i have been thinking of bh part too. lol.
If you can get an attachment with +15 or something from killing jedi. Well thats just as much money as going after npc missions.
EXCEPT THAT YOU MEET A REAL CHALLANGE.
Ezzah
Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:40 am
#10
How about you just be happy that theres no permadeath anymore and go back to being uber in ur corner of coronet.
-Sene-
Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:47 am
#11
puting a BH on the terms for loosing/incompleting 2 or 3 missions in a row is pretty stupid.... ive tracked a mark for the 3 days allowed and NEVER found them uncloaked, never grinding, never killing anything, just runing aorund buying stuff and talking ot people cloaked; its actually amazing the amount of things you can do in the game that way.
ocili
Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:16 am
#12
Aliman wrote:
Well i personaly have both. I have a jedi and bh.
I refuse to be BH content with my jedi as many of my jedi targets when im hunting them with my bh.
So when you think like that there is nothing moreto expectthen +root+ and force run. /logout
Cheers
I find it funny that you REFUSE to be Bounty Hunter content, but yet, with your alt MBH, you yourself do what you don't like being done to yourself.
Personally, I think Jedi with BH alts who propose crap like this should have their jedi powers stripped from them. You are an insult to both proffesions.
go /troll somewhere else thanks.
-Sene-
Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:25 am
#13
ocili wrote:
propose crap like this should have their jedi powers stripped from them. You are an insult to both proffesions.
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