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Thread: Jedi Win/Loss Records: From the Jedi Forum

Spynet-Informant
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:00 pm
#1



Here's an interesting thread:


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1197016&view=by_date_ascending&page=1



  • Jedi Beats BH Jedi dies


  • wintersNight 14 1


  • h4rr0w20 1


  • Nastypope5 1


  • allproucando 24 0


  • SugarBuzz110 0


  • jonaga 20 0


  • MasterGettingOnTerms 17 0


  • COLDFUSION11 32 2


  • Ameno33 0


  • MrDoppa 2 0


  • TOTALS177 5


Total Fights182
Win Percentage97%
Loss Percentage3%



97% Win Percentage?



1.5x more poerful my arse...

Message Edited by Spynet-Informant on 09-08-2005 02:01 PM

KilferfUhn
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:05 pm
#2

I'm not sure what the point is exactly, that jediARE more than1.5 times powerful?


Those stats mean squat to me. Seriously.


I don't own a jedi, but i do own 85% of the full templates i encounter.


Jonaga is on my server i think, i'll ask him for a duel tonight. (We're both rebs, i don't hunt same faction yadda yadda, i'm sure he'd consent to one)



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SugarBuzz1
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:11 pm
#3






KilferfUhn wrote:

I'm not sure what the point is exactly, that jediARE more than1.5 times powerful?


Those stats mean squat to me. Seriously.


I don't own a jedi, but i do own 85% of the full templates i encounter.


Jonaga is on my server i think, i'll ask him for a duel tonight. (We're both rebs, i don't hunt same faction yadda yadda, i'm sure he'd consent to one)






Such a valid Point. Seems both jedi and BH boards claim overwhelming victory. Perhaps its because only the top 10% of each profession wants to disclose its win loss record. There should be an option for Jedi who think they are uber to sign up for a different kind of terminal. One that you dont lose XP in but the BH will get double credits if he wins. The catch being once you sign up for the boards you cant grind xp. You will be locked out from grinding. So UBER BH can go to this board for more challenge and more money and jedi can get on this board to see how strong they are. You can only get your mission selected by one BH at atime and does not go back on if you die as a jedi. You have to resign up. If you win then it stays up there. Maybe with a little record keeper. "jedi has killed 3 straight BH".



just a thought





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Spynet-Informant
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:11 pm
#4






KilferfUhn wrote:

I'm not sure what the point is exactly, that jediARE more than1.5 times powerful?


Those stats mean squat to me. Seriously.


I don't own a jedi, but i do own 85% of the full templates i encounter.


Jonaga is on my server i think, i'll ask him for a duel tonight. (We're both rebs, i don't hunt same faction yadda yadda, i'm sure he'd consent to one)



1.5x is a 30% increase I do believe.


He should win 2/3 Fights.



Those stats indicate that Jedi as a whole are winning far more than 2 of 3 fights, which indicates a greater than 1.5x power disparity across the board.


(I'm not just talking about you, but the game as a whole)


TheCapn2000
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:28 pm
#5






Spynet-Informant wrote:





KilferfUhn wrote:

I'm not sure what the point is exactly, that jediARE more than1.5 times powerful?


Those stats mean squat to me. Seriously.


I don't own a jedi, but i do own 85% of the full templates i encounter.


Jonaga is on my server i think, i'll ask him for a duel tonight. (We're both rebs, i don't hunt same faction yadda yadda, i'm sure he'd consent to one)



1.5x is a 30% increase I do believe.


He should win 2/3 Fights.



Those stats indicate that Jedi as a whole are winning far more than 2 of 3 fights, which indicates a greater than 1.5x power disparity across the board.


(I'm not just talking about you, but the game as a whole)






To just say he should blanket win 2 of 3 is inaccurate...the skill of the combatants dictate the outcome in the majority of the cases...If 3 noob BHs attack of course they will more than likely die...but if someone who know how to play their profession then the task is much more difficult...and that goes for Jedi and BHs alike....




«Sirros» «Dirrk» «Odin'»
THANKS KAURI...IT WAS FUN

KilferfUhn
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:31 pm
#6

I don't really know a whole lot about the 1.5 times stronger thingy....and i hate toclaim thatthe full templates i fought (most of whom are good friends to me ingame) simply didn't have the skill to keep up, but that is the truth. Those same friends who sent me a /t afterward, "overpowered blah blah" soon adjusted and in subsequent duels beat me by changing their tactics accordingly.


Their "1.5x stronger" isjust a handicapimho.


How could we have dozens of jedi running around getting killed left and right by any BH combo, we can't. Make them 1.5 times stronger and they'll have a handicap. Bam. Nice. But now, when someone comes along who grasps their template 100%, as opposed to you who only grasps your own jedi's template by75%, and they kill you...well.....suddenly we're overpowered. No, you're underskilled.


Give me a Jedi and i will tear that same person up in less than 1/2 the time i did with my BH, i can garuntee (sp?) it. Suddenly my 1.5 times more powereful jedi appears to be 5x stronger....


But i know if you put two people who know their templates 100% in a fight, the jedi will win. If you let the BH get his alpha-strike in...well i'm betting the BH wins. Fair 'nuff for me.


ramble...ramble...ramble....




i'm just rambling...lol....it's such a touchy subject, but i'm convinced Jedi are fine where they are, and so aren't we Master Combat Medics and Master Doctors.



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Spynet-Informant
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:33 pm
#7






TheCapn2000 wrote:

To just say he should blanket win 2 of 3 is inaccurate...the skill of the combatants dictate the outcome in the majority of the cases...If 3 noob BHs attack of course they will more than likely die...but if someone who know how to play their profession then the task is much more difficult...and that goes for Jedi and BHs alike....







Sure.. but a noob Jedi defender can still beat most Fencer/Rangers, so template does come into play.


TheCapn2000
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:34 pm
#8






Spynet-Informant wrote:





TheCapn2000 wrote:

To just say he should blanket win 2 of 3 is inaccurate...the skill of the combatants dictate the outcome in the majority of the cases...If 3 noob BHs attack of course they will more than likely die...but if someone who know how to play their profession then the task is much more difficult...and that goes for Jedi and BHs alike....







Sure.. but a noob Jedi defender can still beat most Fencer/Rangers, so template does come into play.






but that template does not do jedi missions so it is an invalid comparison...




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THANKS KAURI...IT WAS FUN

KilferfUhn
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:35 pm
#9






Spynet-Informant wrote:





TheCapn2000 wrote:

To just say he should blanket win 2 of 3 is inaccurate...the skill of the combatants dictate the outcome in the majority of the cases...If 3 noob BHs attack of course they will more than likely die...but if someone who know how to play their profession then the task is much more difficult...and that goes for Jedi and BHs alike....







Sure.. but a noob Jedi defender can still beat most Fencer/Rangers, so template does come into play.








Sure it does, it's not perfect by any means. (It's SoE ) But to claim all jedi are more than 1.5x stronger than all other professions across the galaxie?...pffft....based on those stats? Don't belive the hype.



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diepa
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:36 pm
#10






SugarBuzz1 wrote:





KilferfUhn wrote:

I'm not sure what the point is exactly, that jediARE more than1.5 times powerful?


Those stats mean squat to me. Seriously.


I don't own a jedi, but i do own 85% of the full templates i encounter.


Jonaga is on my server i think, i'll ask him for a duel tonight. (We're both rebs, i don't hunt same faction yadda yadda, i'm sure he'd consent to one)






Such a valid Point. Seems both jedi and BH boards claim overwhelming victory. Perhaps its because only the top 10% of each profession wants to disclose its win loss record. There should be an option for Jedi who think they are uber to sign up for a different kind of terminal. One that you dont lose XP in but the BH will get double credits if he wins. The catch being once you sign up for the boards you cant grind xp. You will be locked out from grinding. So UBER BH can go to this board for more challenge and more money and jedi can get on this board to see how strong they are. You can only get your mission selected by one BH at atime and does not go back on if you die as a jedi. You have to resign up. If you win then it stays up there. Maybe with a little record keeper. "jedi has killed 3 straight BH".



just a thought






More likely is that they are lying. Immature people who somehow feel more important when they can "pwn" or at least say they do....

Spynet-Informant
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:38 pm
#11






TheCapn2000 wrote:





Spynet-Informant wrote:





TheCapn2000 wrote:

To just say he should blanket win 2 of 3 is inaccurate...the skill of the combatants dictate the outcome in the majority of the cases...If 3 noob BHs attack of course they will more than likely die...but if someone who know how to play their profession then the task is much more difficult...and that goes for Jedi and BHs alike....







Sure.. but a noob Jedi defender can still beat most Fencer/Rangers, so template does come into play.






but that template does not do jedi missions so it is an invalid comparison...








Actually.. it is.


I've seen DEVs state, and heard them say at FanFest, that a Jedi should be 1.5x more powerful than any non-Jedi combat oriented template. NOT 1.5x MBH based templates only.






TheCapn2000
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:38 pm
#12






diepa wrote:





SugarBuzz1 wrote:





KilferfUhn wrote:

I'm not sure what the point is exactly, that jediARE more than1.5 times powerful?


Those stats mean squat to me. Seriously.


I don't own a jedi, but i do own 85% of the full templates i encounter.


Jonaga is on my server i think, i'll ask him for a duel tonight. (We're both rebs, i don't hunt same faction yadda yadda, i'm sure he'd consent to one)






Such a valid Point. Seems both jedi and BH boards claim overwhelming victory. Perhaps its because only the top 10% of each profession wants to disclose its win loss record. There should be an option for Jedi who think they are uber to sign up for a different kind of terminal. One that you dont lose XP in but the BH will get double credits if he wins. The catch being once you sign up for the boards you cant grind xp. You will be locked out from grinding. So UBER BH can go to this board for more challenge and more money and jedi can get on this board to see how strong they are. You can only get your mission selected by one BH at atime and does not go back on if you die as a jedi. You have to resign up. If you win then it stays up there. Maybe with a little record keeper. "jedi has killed 3 straight BH".



just a thought






More likely is that they are lying. Immature people who somehow feel more important when they can "pwn" or at least say they do....





If they are then the BHs who frequent their servers will call them out for it...




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THANKS KAURI...IT WAS FUN

Anaalin
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:41 pm
#13

Those stats are misleading. I can honestly say there are probably more than a few BHs who have at least as good as, if not better, win-loss record.


I know we had one BH on Naritus that was a terror. I think he retired some 200 marks, and was killed maybe once. He had screenies of beating every "unbeatable" Jedi on the server.


Template is only half the equation. THe other half is how good the player's skills are.



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