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Thread: Wow you got to be kidding 33 K health LVL 82 npc .. I did not even have to heal

Dhuell
Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:57 am
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PePcFrEaK
Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:00 am
#2



emovamalla wrote:


Anarchicgorilla wrote:
All you players crying for nerfs need to learn how to play.... just ran 10 npc missions 1 of which was 33 the others were 17-19k
I never even had to heal once in any of these...
Boss npc's too hard???
Dam they need to be a hell of alot harder then this.



Yep. (1) Giant Nooblet right here.

I know you watched my video from today. YOU KNOW that there are some easy double golds and you know there are some that are impossible.

It's not ALWAYS a matter of "knowing how to play". I didn't get to where I am by being a noob for a couple years.

I can't wait for you to call in a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance on your first uber hard double gold. But... I'm sure you won't post about it. Won't want to seem like a noob and have "learn how to play" thrown back in your face.






Exactly a corispondant wouldnt /agree with us if there wasnt a problem these marks are imposible. It is bugged no dubt about it i bet u didnt even get one as i said before there not all hard but for you to say u got 1 double elite and killed it good job! Get the ones almost 98% of us got last night.



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Darkesong
Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:58 am
#3






Gorgosaur wrote:


I had 2 boss marks yesterday.


First onewith 32k ham that was very easy andsecond onewith 33k ham that was insanely hard. The first one was using some crappy cdef pistol or something and never did more than 30 points of damage per shot. His health was regenerating pretty fast, but still an easy kill.


The second one was totally different. When i start by shootin him (i play ranged char)it instantly KDd me with using kinetic pistol, changed weapon to some kind of 2h sword, ran next to me, put root and armorbreak on me and started hitting over 1k damage per hit and that 1k is after armor+foods+duelliststance reduction. On top of that it had extremely high health regeneration, unlimited action bar, was using specials from at least 4 different profession and was constantly burstrunning or warping so snaring him didnt help at all. Only reason why i killed it, was that i managed to kd it and that for some reason made it put away its sword and started using bare fists (still doing aklmost 300 pts per hit after armor)


Now i dont mind that boss marks use specials or are harder than before, but they should not have unlimited action bar enabling them to spam all the most powerfull specials all the time, their health reg should be tuned down and most important of all, they should not warp/burstrun all the time making it impossible to kite them.


Gorgosaur Zen



Message Edited by Gorgosaur on 10-19-2005 10:40 PM





I got one of the sword using/burstrunning ones last night, and it completely owned me. I could not kite him at all, as soon as he was up from a KD he was right back on me. He used AB constantly, and did like 700dmg a hit. The regen was insane, I just couldn't keep up. I don't think the OP would have been able to defeat one of these without healing...the boss mobs are obviously widely varied in dmg and skills now.






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Anarchicgorilla
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:04 am
#4



Think this is the "uber" boss people are talking about... he regerated health like a madman and was doing serous dmg (more then some pvpers)



34k heath dble gold cheveron... again. This time to prove a point I did not even use my droid for help in combat only had out to increase my heals, and I even used my nyms slugthrower (great for pvp not the best for PVE)



I had to heal in this battle this time yes.. the boss was hitting me before armor from 700 -900 dmg per shot, and was using kd and all kinds of specials.



However I never got incapped or even close... and beat him without the help of my droid for dmg (used droids in last battles becuase they do 100 dmg every second to npc's.. but this time figured I would go with out.






So now to all the "whiners" saying the dble gold bosses cannot be beat and I must have had "easy" double gold...


Here is your proof.



By the way if you notice I am using a speed pup with ranged placed macro... all the things people say... ohh use specials and sac pups ... and I have stated DPS and ranged placed are the way to go... etc.. but everyone will ofcourse "disagree" then whine that bosses cannot be beat. Then label me a "noob"



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Message Edited by Anarchicgorilla on 10-20-2005 01:13 PM



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Anarchicgorilla
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:17 am
#5

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Waiting for the "ranged placed with speed pup is stupid" and I am a noob comments... because the bosses cannot be beat





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ekimocyc006
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:22 am
#6

looks like the only people who are beating them have mcm in there build or 4xxxcm. so this is a forced upon us to fight these mobs we have to get cm. i do not like being told that if i want to beat them i have to have healing lines or healing prof.


my build is true range build and i do not want to got fotm temp to fight pve marks.





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Anarchicgorilla
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:33 am
#7






ekimocyc006 wrote:

looks like the only people who are beating them have mcm in there build or 4xxxcm. so this is a forced upon us to fight these mobs we have to get cm. i do not like being told that if i want to beat them i have to have healing lines or healing prof.


my build is true range build and i do not want to got fotm temp to fight pve marks.








You donot need MCM... here are some help for non-mcm



Get a droid and !!!! always group with your droid !!!! (notice my alt in sig) with full combat defense and 110 medical this will increase your heals for around 300 each heal and the droid will do 80 - 100 dmg after armor 16x in 20 seconds to these boss NPC's. (that really adds up in a longer fight) (also get + 25 he in tapes... easy way is a he shirt and bando)


Also notice I used my nyms (not even sliced yet, but with speed pup)which was hitting for 678 and 728 points of dmg before armor... For pve your max dmg is the one that counts... so with my elite I would be hitting for 1063 and 1169 dmg before armor each shot for ranged / placed... thats alot more dmg. (used the nym's and did not have my droid attack to show a point).


With a droid and my elite I would have increased my dmg out put by 485 more point each second... that is huge difference.


And btw ranged placed with a speed pup on a 80ish or lower sac weapon will not touch your action bar... and will outdamage any other combo.









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DTQ
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:43 am
#8

Ive had a few double goldboss marks Ive killed easy enough, but tougher than before (30k plus), and I ve had one which I was no where near good enough to beat single handedly. I think theres a few rogue nasties out there, I think its actually kinda cool knowing that every so often you ARENT going to win (without help).



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pfowie
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:43 am
#9

im a mcm mbh and not much else since i am on the trail (ie the village). i grouped with my driod i have enchancements for my bacta toss and two of my chem war attacks. i ate.


i took on 2 gold npc marks. (after running about 20 missions i ave 1 gold per 10 mission)


and the first one i killed np (33 ham) and the second one (36 ham) i did not even get hurt. infact my armour was bearly scratched.


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Cadeyrn
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:54 am
#10


Ranged placed shot with speed pup is stupid, you noob. Those marks can't be beat.



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JarekTalram
Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:07 am
#11

I




Desperado65 wrote:

/agree


See? People have to learn that they can't expect to automatically keep on killing like they did before. There are too many posts about nerfing. They have to adapt to the situation now...and learn how to use tactics.





That's bull. I'm a double elite and I can't even come close to killing a single white chevron level 82 mark. THis is just plain crap. They are too hard for a since player to kill. Man I should have realized this after fighting the level 88 Xandank in the beta. BH NPC missions are currently a waste of time.
Kesslan
Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:10 am
#12

Yeah i've just hit one of these 'ultra' marks too. And even with parawan he's impossible to keep away from. Stay close and he's hitting me for up to 1k damage on capped assault armor. Stay too far and he's hittin gme for 1k+ energy damage through a 2100 PSG.


Not to mention I cant get his health down more than 2k at best at any given time and the moment I pause to heal. He's regened all teh damage, Even with both a fire and bleed dot ticking away at him. Not to mention that even with 45 dodge pikatta pie and both melee and ranged defence foods. He's NOT missing a single swing. And half my attacks are missing even after poping a 200 point pyro.


This is perhaps the second such double gold NPC I've run into. And I've killed plenty of them. But the odd one spawns that is quite simply. Impossible to beat without some one spamming heals on you. And in the case of the one I have right now. I'm not sure even that would help.





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JarekTalram
Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:16 am
#13






acdc44 wrote:





Anarchicgorilla wrote:

All you players crying for nerfs need to learn how to play.... just ran 10 npc missions 1 of which was 33 the others were 17-19k


I never even had to heal once in any of these...


Boss npc's too hard???


Dam they need to be a hell of alot harder then this.






Agreed...keep them as they are, or toughen them a tiny bit more. I enjoy a challenge for my loot.....now if they would just drop something :-)



Before the upnerf, my bread and butter was NS elders and Krayts, and back then they were ELITE mobs...300k to 450k HAM and 80 to 90% resist, and they never dropped as well as the new BH only lootables do.


We have the ONLY profession specific content in the game, we have the ONLY decent loot in the game....FFS quit whining and go kill something.



For a minute I looked at all the whining and moaning and thought I was back in the Jedi forums.







I don't know how you managed to get all the easy marks but mine is impossible. He runs faster than fr3, he Hit's a harder than me and regens at an incredible rate. Challenging is fine. Impossible is another story all together.
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