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Thread: Newb:How are Bounty Hunters Tanks?????

desfile
Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:59 pm
#1

it seems while talking to mbh's in the game they have recommeded i take tkm as they can tank and that bh don't really have any defense. i was told this after telling him i was going to try rifle/bh i am total newb and it just ended up that way no planning on my part. well i can't figure out how they are tanks other classes can where assult armor. now i am not 100% sure what the cu table means that bh is mitigation, i know that it reduced the hinderance of armor, but all classes have that.

so please let me know how bh is a tank. why does it seem that recon armor is much better then assult, espically since we fight people with ENERGY GUNS!!!. well i am confused about this class, but i like there story.

oh also what armor should a bh ware? or does everyone have all armor? also i am only lvl 23 should i get armor as novice rifle/bh seems there is armor from 1000-6000 protections but eith the different armor mitigation skills i not sure what i should get. creatures my lvl KICK my arse and i need some armor improvment. i now use all the lvl 22 guns which helps but not enough they still hit me for 200+ damage.

so please inform this newb.

ZoranMa

Message Edited by desfile on 08-20-2005 06:20 PM

Eleutherios
Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:34 pm
#2


Duelist Stance, pretty much...



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PyscoJuggalo
Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:38 pm
#3

You want to be a Tank? Go a temp with 4-0-0-0 Doc and TKA 0-1-0-0.


You want to hunt Jedi? Go MBH





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Karbal
Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:44 pm
#4

Yeah this has been a big complaint since cu. The only thing even close to giving us a "tank" advantage is duelist stance .. and that's only +250 defense .. and it has to charge up which means no movement allowed .. and it only lasts 30 seconds .. so all in all it's pretty freakin weak.


My vote would be for it to generate +500 (like force aura/improved cob) and for it to be instantaneous .. no warm up (so we can freakin kite like we're supposed to).


That would at least put us into the ballpark of being "tanks". Right now I would say we're in the category of maybe "weak suv's".





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desfile
Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:13 pm
#5

so where does this leave bh in the cu chart if we arnt tanks? how do u use this stance successfully in combat?
HawkBurn
Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:14 pm
#6






desfile wrote:
so where does this leave bh in the cu chart if we arnt tanks? how do u use this stance successfully in combat?




Just pick up Master Combat Medic



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Cpl_Fisher
Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:36 pm
#7






HawkBurn wrote:





desfile wrote:
so where does this leave bh in the cu chart if we arnt tanks? how do u use this stance successfully in combat?




Just pick up Master Combat Medic





Jedi hate MBH MCM's



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Trenkor
Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:46 pm
#8






Cpl_Fisher wrote:






HawkBurn wrote:





desfile wrote:
so where does this leave bh in the cu chart if we arnt tanks? how do u use this stance successfully in combat?




Just pick up Master Combat Medic





Jedi hate MBH MCM's




Yay for people like me And jedi only hate us until they learn how to beat us, but that doesn't mean we die easy

OhBuggah
Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:46 pm
#9






desfile wrote:
it seems while talking to mbh's in the game they have recommeded i take tkm as they can tank and that bh don't really have any defense. i was told this after telling him i was going to try rifle/bh i am total newb and it just ended up that way no planning on my part. well i can't figure out how they are tanks other classes can where assult armor. now i am not 100% sure what the cu table means that bh is mitigation, i know that it reduced the hinderance of armor, but all classes have that.

so please let me know how bh is a tank. why does it seem that recon armor is much better then assult, espically since we fight people with ENERGY GUNS!!!. well i am confused about this class, but i like there story.

oh also what armor should a bh ware? or does everyone have all armor? also i am only lvl 23 should i get armor as novice rifle/bh seems there is armor from 1000-6000 protections but eith the different armor mitigation skills i not sure what i should get. creatures my lvl KICK my arse and i need some armor improvment. i now use all the lvl 22 guns which helps but not enough they still hit me for 200+ damage.

so please inform this newb.

ZoranMa

Message Edited by desfile on 08-20-2005 06:20 PM




How are they tanks? Two things make them tanks: (1) +250 duelist stance, and (2) armor certifications for assault armor that gives bonuses to kinetic resists -- the type of damage you would receive when you're up in a mob's face tanking.
desfile
Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:55 pm
#10

how do you use the stance properly in combat if it takes so long to use and you can't move
OhBuggah
Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:04 pm
#11






desfile wrote:
how do you use the stance properly in combat if it takes so long to use and you can't move





well, a tank's role is not to run around and kite. a tank's role is to stand rooted in one place and hold aggro on a mob. thus, you do not need to move. stand planted in one place, and make a duelist stance macro that activates every 28 seconds. eat pikatta pie and other dodge/block foods. in between duelist stance activations make sure you're dealing good damage to hold aggro. with assault armor you should be able to take a lot of kinetic damage.


this is how a bounty hunter is a tank.


Eleutherios
Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:05 pm
#12

"How are they tanks? Two things make them tanks: (1) +250 duelist stance, and (2) armor certifications for assault armor that gives bonuses to kinetic resists -- the type of damage you would receive when you're up in a mob's face tanking."


#2 is not consequential.


Tanking isn't just melee. If you'll notice, other tanks like Teras Kasi and Force Defender have the same resist to Kin AND En (regarding their Innate armor). You can tank things other than bols, you know...



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Algren_Earth-Stormer
Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:30 pm
#13



best ranged tank in the game....... (and all around good template for BH, GCW PvP, and PvE)


MBH / MPist / CM 4000


Nice thing about Pistols is you get lots of melee and ranged def points, plus you can wear either energy resist recon armor (for hunting jedi, NPC tank) or kinetic resistassault armor (good for grinding pve).


Plus you have a GREAT tool, disarming shot. great for use in one on one stuff, you can use it right before using a stim or right before using duelistic stance and they can't hurt you while you are doing these things.


So.... you get the following nice features....


MBH -

- Assault armor

- good melee def

- high damage output

- ranged kd

- duelistic stance


Pistols -

- disarming shot

- recon armor

- more defense points

- rooting shot


CM 4000

- great heals for self

- amazing heals for group



Other options for ranged tanks are....


MBH / MCM / Pist 0004

MBH / MDoc

MPist / MCM / Carb 0440

MPist / MCM / Carb 0040 / Medic 0440



other things to keep in mind....

- Rifles suck as far as tanking

- you WILL get lots of agro in a group with MBH / Carbs 0400 in your template

- MCM / MBH is very strong against Jedi.

- MBH / MDoc is easy to play and very self sufficient (buff/heal self)

- combat medic and carbines both if battle armor certs (good for all around use)

Message Edited by Algren_Earth-Stormer on 08-21-2005 01:32 AM



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