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Thread: last ditch being used as a first strike -exploit-
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timit
Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:26 am
#1
Heres the story.
Im grinding in theryyatt trail. A bh comes. I know this bh because i escaped her/him as a lower level paddy before in the myydril caves with the crystal you get from a quest down there.
So i stop attacking wookies and stand away to prepare for a fight. This bh < jadelance > runs off of the first bridge with mobs close behind her/him. Runs past and runs accross the other bridge out of my sight. She/he then comes back and hits me for 4632damage <1 shot incap>.She got close to being incapped by the mob and then use last ditch shot on me AS A FIRST STRIKE. She did not get incapped in the process. Doesnt last ditch incap both players?This is what someone else has said, and yes, i checked the combat log. <4632 damage>. A shot this powerful should not be used as a first strike attack on a bh's mark. This gives jedi no chance to react at all. So i say,the ability for bh's to use this as a initiating attack is a exploit and needs to be fixed. Flame away if you must.
Redondo
Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:29 am
#3
so a BH used one of their specials to kill you....what's the problem? I guess your first move should be avoid incap.
Checito
Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:31 am
#4
Merp. What he is saying is there is something wrong with the special
LD is supposed to be used as a resort with the "if i go down so do you" Mnetality. It should incap the user to adjust for its massive dmg dealing.
It didnt, if this is more the a circumstance bug. Jedi are dead.
LD is supposed to be used as a resort with the "if i go down so do you" Mnetality. It should incap the user to adjust for its massive dmg dealing.
It didnt, if this is more the a circumstance bug. Jedi are dead.
Wimpanzee
Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:33 am
#5
cavellian cream can bring you out of incap so fast (provided you eat it first) that you never see the animation of falling down.
gotta be careful tho, that first incap, then a second incap to fire last ditch - a third is not far away.
and it is not a be all end all jedi killer. the one time i used it i had about 250 of 3800 health left, i hit for 2000 dmg BEFORE his mitigation from aura (and inate and all that mdef stuff) blocked about 900 of that. then he db'd me since i was, of course, incapped.
gotta be careful tho, that first incap, then a second incap to fire last ditch - a third is not far away.
and it is not a be all end all jedi killer. the one time i used it i had about 250 of 3800 health left, i hit for 2000 dmg BEFORE his mitigation from aura (and inate and all that mdef stuff) blocked about 900 of that. then he db'd me since i was, of course, incapped.
Message Edited by Wimpanzee on 06-29-2005 01:35 PM
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timit
Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:33 am
#6
Redondo wrote:
so a BH used one of their specials to kill you....what's the problem?
It was used as a initiating attack , not like its intended, bh got close to death by a mob , not me, and then used last ditch as a initiating attack. That attack is to strongto beused to initiate a attack on a jedi. Im not screaming nerf LD. I just think a bh's initial attack should not yield a damage amount that big. Especially when they get theirhealth taken down close to incap by a creature and not by me.
Message Edited by timit on 06-29-2005 11:35 AM
Redondo
Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:34 am
#7
well honestly I have never used Last Ditch so I doont even know what I am talking about, I just thought I would be cranky.
/shame 
_Crash_
Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:44 am
#8
so a BH used one of their specials to kill you....what's the problem? I guess your first move should be avoid incap.
Look, i am a bh and I used to be a smuggler/bh and this IS a problem and should be considered and exploit in my opinion. The fact is that the jedi had no chance whatsoever. The initial attack was a last ditch.
Now I used to be a bh with master smuggler and I used last ditch but never as an opening move, only when I was about to get incapped, so I did use it ligitimately. What this BH did should be considered an expoit if it really happened this way.
What the bh probably did was have the mobs incap them.. then they used last ditch on the jedi while their health was still low.
Last ditch generally does not incap both users if it goes off, but it will oftentimes incap the smuggler if it fails.
SolarusArc
Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:46 am
#9
Doesn't matter if the smuggler's damage was caused by you or a mob, the special is working as intended. Sounds like you got bested by a very smart BH. /tiphat to BH.
timit wrote:
Redondo wrote:
so a BH used one of their specials to kill you....what's the problem?
It was used as a initiating attack , not like its intended, bh got close to death by a mob , not me, and then used last ditch as a initiating attack. That attack is to strongto beused to initiate a attack on a jedi. Im not screaming nerf LD. I just think a bh's initial attack should not yield a damage amount that big. Especially when they get theirhealth taken down close to incap by a creature and not by me.
Message Edited by timit on 06-29-2005 11:35 AM
timit
Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:46 pm
#10
Dlek_Krego wrote:
timit wrote:
Heres the story.
Im grinding in the ryyatt trail. A bh comes. I know this bh because i escaped her/him as a lower level paddy before in the myydril caves with the crystal you get from a quest down there.
So i stop attacking wookies and stand away to prepare for a fight. This bh < jadelance > runs off of the first bridge with mobs close behind her/him. Runs past and runs accross the other bridge out of my sight. She/he then comes back and hits me for 4632damage <1 shot incap>. She got close to being incapped by the mob and then use last ditch shot on me AS A FIRST STRIKE. She did not get incapped in the process. Doesnt last ditch incap both players? This is what someone else has said, and yes, i checked the combat log. <4632 damage>. A shot this powerful should not be used as a first strike attack on a bh's mark. This gives jedi no chance to react at all. So i say, the ability for bh's to use this as a initiating attack is a exploit and needs to be fixed. Flame away if you must.
In addition to the method stated in this post, also beware of combatant IMP BH'ers... I witnessed an IMP BH pull out his factional Stormtrooper pet, slap it to get the instant incap. I thought he was just goofing off like I used to do... but as soon as he stood up, he fired and a female Jedi not to far from me fell, incapped. She was DB'ed before she ever had a chance to draw her saber. If that is not an overpowered exploit, I do not know what is.
Thank you. This has exploit WRITTEN ALL OVER IT!
aatc
Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:52 pm
#12
So your cheating your grind on the bug spawn.. And expect us to care when you shout exploit?
Jedi_Xan
Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:04 pm
#13
oh well, a BH with a powerful (yet dangerous) special used it on you and won. the same bh could do it again, and not get so lucky next time. just a risky move. how the bh uses it is up to them.
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