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Thread: Any tips on fighting Defender Jedi?
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Chaind2f8
Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:35 pm
#1
Hello all, I have a little problem that I'd like to hear some of your opinions on. Today me and a friend were cruising through the terminals and picked up a 225k Knight to go out and hunt. We tracked him to Theed and initiated attack. Within under a minute my friend was dead and I figured I was in trouble but was going to put up the best fight I could. I slap the Jedi with Electrolyte Drain and Improved Thyroid Rupture before bracing for the long fight that was ahead and then started to open up on him. Only problem was I could do next to NO damage to him. Honestly, my shots were doing an average of 200 damage to him while he was damaging me for upwards of 1000 damage. I lasted out for somewhere between 5-10 minutes (hard to track time in that sort of an encounter) but simply couldn't do enough damage to even force him to heal more than once. Sadly after the encounter I was told that he was only 0040 Defender and that just makes me sick.
Anyone out there have any tips for dealing with Jedi like these? My only thought is to go MCM in order to get the DOTs that will bypass the mitigation he's receiving from his buffs.
Mythrindir
Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:48 pm
#3
apply poisons and stuff...their defender doesnt mitigate it i don't think. also when they start to get low paralyze and prepare for a stronger shot like sniper if you have it
Chaind2f8
Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:54 pm
#4
Sirisandir wrote:
Get a better weapon.
The Advanced Laser Rifle that I'm using has a max damage of 1004. I know that's not the best but how much difference does it make if I get, say, a rifle with 1100 max damage?
Chaind2f8
Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:55 pm
#5
Mythrindir wrote:
apply poisons and stuff...their defender doesnt mitigate it i don't think. also when they start to get low paralyze and prepare for a stronger shot like sniper if you have it
Yeah this is my thought on the issue as I look back in hindsight but unfortunately I don't have enough CM to make DOTs a viable option (4xx4). I am thinking about going MCM after this encounter though.
BDragon
Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:57 pm
#6
Chaind2f8 wrote:
Sirisandir wrote:
Get a better weapon.
The Advanced Laser Rifle that I'm using has a max damage of 1004. I know that's not the best but how much difference does it make if I get, say, a rifle with 1100 max damage?
Thats where you're going wrong young BH. When you fight a Jedi with aura, max damage means NOTHING, min is all you need to be concerned about. Im betting the minimum on your laser is about 450? Well, thats closer to the number that was being used to multipy your damage, not the max.
Max damage is for PvP noobs, in CU minimum is king...
Mythrindir
Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:58 pm
#7
mcm is cool...im going to grind it as soon as i stop procrastinating because of my hate of grinding. MCM electrolyte and Hemmorhage also destroy ANY regen i think
Chaind2f8
Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:01 pm
#8
BDragon wrote:
Chaind2f8 wrote:
Sirisandir wrote:
Get a better weapon.
The Advanced Laser Rifle that I'm using has a max damage of 1004. I know that's not the best but how much difference does it make if I get, say, a rifle with 1100 max damage?
Thats where you're going wrong young BH. When you fight a Jedi with aura, max damage means NOTHING, min is all you need to be concerned about. Im betting the minimum on your laser is about 450? Well, thats closer to the number that was being used to multipy your damage, not the max.
Max damage is for PvP noobs, in CU minimum is king...
Well I'd just like to start off by saying I'm not a young BH, I've been doing this for more than a year now. I do thank you for the insight though as that wasn't something I was thinking about. The way it's currently working is Defense acts as something of mitigation and with his Defense being so much higher than my accuracy he was basically reducing my weapons effectiveness to it's minimum. I think I'll have to try and find me a weapon with a good Minimum Damage. What sort of rifles out there have a good minimum damage?
Chaind2f8
Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:02 pm
#9
Mythrindir wrote:
mcm is cool...im going to grind it as soon as i stop procrastinating because of my hate of grinding. MCM electrolyte and Hemmorhage also destroy ANY regen i think
I thought that Electrolyte Drain only reduced the movement speed of the target - does it also reduce Action regen?
OhBuggah
Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:30 pm
#10
Chaind2f8 wrote:
Mythrindir wrote:
apply poisons and stuff...their defender doesnt mitigate it i don't think. also when they start to get low paralyze and prepare for a stronger shot like sniper if you have it
Yeah this is my thought on the issue as I look back in hindsight but unfortunately I don't have enough CM to make DOTs a viable option (4xx4). I am thinking about going MCM after this encounter though.
Get +25 Medical Warfare Efficiency mods. Start with the Nyax Necklace and then buy +20 worth of SEAs. When you have these mods you will be able to throw fire/poison like a MCM with only CM x4xx.
StreborNnelg
Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:08 pm
#11
do what all the otehr people do
/startleshot;
/startleshot;
/startleshot;
loop it
u win
HyprHypo
Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:11 pm
#12
OMG PWN BHS! ALL 1337 JEDI COME TO THE JEDI FORUM, NICE NERFING TO BH. WE SHOULD POOOON, BHS SUX0RZ
Sorry about that, now I can continue since most of the Jedi have clicked off this thread.
I cant kill top tier pvping defenders yet but i do well against lame-decent pvpers (at least imo) I use bleed, disarm and startle until their buffs run out (40 seconds?) and then crit, ranged and some other specials. I really try to keep my action up, so i dont spam crit or headshot. I drop them with a KD and then startle them and /aim along followed by another nice shot when their buffs arent up then the root. I can usually do this for a while. Their godmode buff only lasts 40 seconds so try to get their timing off when they cant rebuff with startle or disarm.
I am master rifles, master BH with pistols 0404 and i got some 1200 stim Ds
Sorry about that, now I can continue since most of the Jedi have clicked off this thread.
I cant kill top tier pvping defenders yet but i do well against lame-decent pvpers (at least imo) I use bleed, disarm and startle until their buffs run out (40 seconds?) and then crit, ranged and some other specials. I really try to keep my action up, so i dont spam crit or headshot. I drop them with a KD and then startle them and /aim along followed by another nice shot when their buffs arent up then the root. I can usually do this for a while. Their godmode buff only lasts 40 seconds so try to get their timing off when they cant rebuff with startle or disarm.
I am master rifles, master BH with pistols 0404 and i got some 1200 stim Ds
Mythrindir
Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:53 pm
#13
Chaind2f8 wrote:
Mythrindir wrote:
mcm is cool...im going to grind it as soon as i stop procrastinating because of my hate of grinding. MCM electrolyte and Hemmorhage also destroy ANY regen i think
I thought that Electrolyte Drain only reduced the movement speed of the target - does it also reduce Action regen?
doh one of those, i thought elect was action regen
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