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Thread: ****JEDI HUNTING CONCERNS PLZ READ****
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senag2
Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:21 pm
#1
I read all posts here regarding Jedi hunts, Jedi xp loss, /duel issues, jedi cloak, faction bases issue etc. I am quite amazed at this and all the responses these posts get. Matters like "Why jedi cloak, force run, freeze us, squeeze us and then run away" Is that the problem? Of course they will run away, I would do it and all of us would I believe since they got much to lose and we lose nothing. The real question is what happens when they DO stand their ground and fight!
I am a BH cos I love the thrill of the hunt. I want them to run away so I can track them down again and again, until they log or stand their ground and fight. I had Jedi thanking me for hunting them! Jedi that loved the chase, the thrill, the fear and I enjoyed it as much as they did. Chases and fights that lasted hours.Not all jedi are grind'o'looneys.
So my question to all you BH out there is this: How many full temp or near full temp Jedi have you killed? Me? 3 and I hunted a LOT.I wouldincap them cos they would make a mistake or press the wrong button or they lag or even they were fighting at the time and had like 5% force remaining and my KD DID work. The 14 out of 15 fights end either in me dying or Jedi fleeing.
I can tell you this. If the Jedi is in melee range with you its all OVER. You get rooted, Armor Break,and they continuously hit you for 500-800 dam 5-7 times for a total of 3500-5000 dam forcing you to heal all the time not being able to attack, when finally your mind is 0 and their action bar is like a bit less than half way. The 2 KD attacks I have 1 for BH 1 for Mcarbs work once in a blue moon and most of the time when it doesn't even matter for the Jedi.The bleed attack of BH is completely uselessasis the effects attack (prove me wrong). The blind attack? Well, when it works (1 in 5-6 shots) it'll prolly save you 1-2 hits IF you are still running around like crazy trying to kite the Jedi and you are not frozen or on your back. Finally, how useful you think Duelist Stance is, when it saves like 25-35 damage when Jedi defences have FAR more superior damage mitigation?
I get KD'ed once per roughly 5-10 secs and here is my Jedi hunting equipment and my template is MBH/Mcarbs/CM4000, FS 3 boxes Melee defence (+15):
1. 6500ish energy prot battle armor, fully sliced for Armor Break reduction (does that even work?)
2. Although they say sabres do energy my PSG does NOT work (no condition reduction at the end of the fight, and the % of the shield does not drop when I am hit)
3.Hvy Lighting Rifle enhanced with BH WS loot, Max dam 1165/40, sliced for spd, SAC 81, add the PuP and you get like 1250ish. myDPS 585ish
4. E11 MKII carb enhanced with BH WS loot, Max Dam 1142, sliced, SAC82 myDPS 580ish, add the PuP 1230ish.
5. Spec Ops Bola Carbine sliced myDPS 680ish
6. AA's worth+22 KD resist, +9 Terrain Negotiation, +8 Carb Accuracy, +6 rifle accuracy
7. CA's and formfitting shirt worth +16 Mel/Rng Def, +16 General Ranged speed, +6 Carbine speed, +7 rifle speed, +11 General ranged accuracy.
8. The usual doc buff, 5 types of food and spice enhancements (vegeraspine, spiced tea, crispic, booster blue etc).
As for what Jedi should or should not lose, all those ridiculous suggestions in this forum, like perma death, sabre loss, more XP loss, send them to hell with no return ticket are POINTLESS for me. I only want to hunt and have a wee bit of better chance to win the fight. I dont want rewards, medals, badges, ADK's for 150 Jedi kills that some peeps here suggest. Is that too much to ask? Even Jedi I talked to agree to this, at least the ones that don't call me an as***le, and spit on my corpse when they win.
Now plz tellme WHAT would it take to get 1 on 1 with ANY jedi that is not a Noob paddie or simply a bad PvPer (though even those have a good advantage over any experienced PvPer). Plz only serious replies and no flaming if possible. Thank you in advance.
Fugitron
Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:37 pm
#2
I read it, but I am not quite sure what your asking. My BH retired a bit ago cause once I got jedi I didn't like taken others xp. Needless to say I wasn't half bad 
lost once total and this was before they nerfed healing for jedi and made Doc or CM a must. hehe
lost once total and this was before they nerfed healing for jedi and made Doc or CM a must. hehe
senag2
Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:49 pm
#3
I read it, but I am not quite sure what your asking. My BH retired a bit ago cause once I got jedi I didn't like taken others xp. Needless to say I wasn't half bad lost once total and this was before they nerfed healing for jedi and made Doc or CM a must. hehe
1. You are not a BH, so why read and reply (+1 posts I presume?)
2. If you read it you would understand what I am saying or you need some rest
3. Read it again, and if you have some constructive suggestions plz be my guest and post.
Edda_Gast
Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:53 pm
#4
I think your problem is your skills.I can tank full tempalte like a gypsy.
senag2
Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:56 pm
#5
I can tank full tempalte like a gypsy.
You tank? whats your template then? Plz share your knowledge with us. Although I find it VERY hard to believe that you do that with ANY template.
Fugitron
Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:13 pm
#6
So your saying I can't post here cause I am no longer a BH? Ha ok well I was trying to be nice and figure out something to help you, but now I won't have a good one.
Ameno
Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:15 pm
#7
A PSG only blocks ranged attacks, hehe not melee, thats why it doesn't work
Eleutherios
Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:28 pm
#8
Ameno wrote:
A PSG only blocks ranged attacks, hehe not melee, thats why it doesn't work
That's right. It's not just sabers, it's those damn blaster fists, too.
senag2
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:04 pm
#9
Ah well, everyone seems preoccupied with loting their NPC marks. SOE did a good job 
I guess I won't get any replies.
Checito
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:08 pm
#10
Actaully, i can take full temps if there in melee range. Granted its alot harder and something to avoid.
Nakahs
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:11 pm
#11
I play since beta and never want to become a jedi lamer or something... so i can say what it would need to have a more fair chance against jedi in general.This is my new account but however its still the same as 1 year before with the unbalance between jedi/bh pvp.
The problem is jeday can heal as good as a mcm do as much damage as a rifleman with an uber min damage rifle of 600-700ish and tank with their 800-900 ranged def, mitigation and saberblock 25% like god himself. f.e. a capped rifle used by a high end modded rifleman with all accuracy food hits (when it even hits) for about 200-250dam.
This dam the jedi not even need to heal ... force infusion buff is autohealing enough to not have to heal manual.
So the problem here for more balance would be to at least make it possible a ranged proffession can do decent damage to a jedi who is mdef which all are nowadays but the cloakers...
To solve the problem with balance jeday should lose a lot of their superior defense in pvp. I dont say delete or nerf cloak or something as it is lame but not a debalncing issue as long as this jeday is not exploiting sabers and use it as an offensive ganking ability.
Back to the uber defense problem we BH's are faced and im not talking about those BH's who are only jedi alts... another problem is we have much more BH alts from players that are at first jeday and talk bull in this forum to try to prevent they get nerfed.
I dont want talk too much about that fact cause the real (at first) BH's know we have 1000 of jedi trolls here. feel free to post troll... 
I dont want to make jedi equal cause that would cause too much whining even when it would be only fair but i want to have at least a chance as a BH to kill a jedi who is not afk or half dead already.
For that Jeday have to lose their uberness when it comes to a BH/Jedi fight. I would say best solution would be (of course not for jedi) that aura and valor dont work as good in a BH/Jedi situation as it does in a PVE situation. Lets say a decrease of the defense and mitigation that a BH can do decent damage and is not forced to heal till hes out of mind.
The Decrease has to be at least 20% mitigation and 300 ranged defense valor can stand then how it is and it would still be an advantage 1.5 to 1 against BH when it comes to defense.
Now we have an advantage of 3 to 1 for jedi against BH's in either defense and offense as most have pre cu sabers or pearls.
the problem with the sabers is that they have a very high min dam and that is what counts in high end pvp.
So id say let the jedi the superior offense but cut their defense that a BH with best equipment has at least a chance to win without exploiting or using dirty tricks like afk jedi killing or shot when jedi is half dead cause of pve or pvp.
Thats my 2 cent ...
First Mandalorian on Infinity
Tracce
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:14 pm
#12
Started out ok, but then, once you got a reply asking for you to clarify, this is what the poster gets...
senag2 wrote:
Plz only serious replies and no flaming if possible. Thank you in advance.
senag2 wrote:
I read it, but I am not quite sure what your asking. My BH retired a bit ago cause once I got jedi I didn't like taken others xp. Needless to say I wasn't half bad lost once total and this was before they nerfed healing for jedi and made Doc or CM a must. hehe
1. You are not a BH, so why read and reply (+1 posts I presume?)
2. If you read it you would understand what I am saying or you need some rest
3. Read it again, and if you have some constructive suggestions plz be my guest and post.
Follow your own rules man. I read your post, and I had trouble understanding it. Just clarify when people ask you to.
senag2
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:14 pm
#13
Checito wrote:
Actaully, i can take full temps if there in melee range. Granted its alot harder and something to avoid.
As I said to the other guy who tanks like a gypsy, can you share the knowledge? That's why I posted this here. Sigh.
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