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Thread: Patience is a Virtue

FalgornLightfoot
Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:51 am
#1

I got a jedi Mark last week.


I noticed that the jedi logged on and off several times for the following day or so.


I waited till he calmed down, and was staying on for longer periods of time. I would launch probes and regular intervals, and get an idea for where he hung out. Without ever actually hunting him.


After about 6 days or so (i was away for 2 of these would usually go earlier) My mark came online, and I immediatly shuttled to where i knew he would be.


10 mins later I found him killing Quenkers near his player city. He was not prepared, and had no guards. He died very quickly.


Just a note to BH.


jedi know when there on the terminals.


If you get a mission, hang on to it until your jedi gets sloppy.


patience is a virtue...



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Fezzig
Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:44 am
#2

Good story. One of the scariest things happened to me last weekend.


I was out doing some PvP to get myself on the terms by fighting Rebs that were harvesting faction in Kor Vella. Anyway, after an hour or so some BHs come, we fight, they die. My buffs are getting low so I head to the Science Outpost on Dath and log out sitting outside the cantina.


So, I go to Fry's and buy some more RAM for my box, and then head to the gym for an hour, and then go grocery shopping with the girlfriend. About 4 hours after I logged out I go to log back in. Right as the loading screen is coming up I hear the fight music kick in. So, for about 20 seconds I'm sitting there freaking out while the game finishes loading. As soon as the screen comes up I see the BH about 50m away from me. I pop my pixie stand and/forceran the hell out of there.


Turns out this guy waited for me on Dath for 4 hours while I was out. Talk about dedication...






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Azkor
Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:57 am
#3

Hehe good story Fezzig. I make it a point to add every jediI come across or any player in full composit armor and no profession badges to my friends list and track what planets they are on as well as the times they log in and out.

Humans are nothing if not predictable. Most people who are dedicated players log in withing about a 15 minute window every day. Not to mention they almost always hunt in the same areas. Familiarity breeds in complacence. Not to mention if your really patient most jedi go to the same place over and over to get buffed. I could just about set my watch by a certain jedi who goes to Corolag to get buffed every 2hrs 45min. Another jedi I have been keeping an eye on does the same thing in Theed.
atimes
Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:58 am
#4






Fezzig wrote:

Good story. One of the scariest things happened to me last weekend.


I was out doing some PvP to get myself on the terms by fighting Rebs that were harvesting faction in Kor Vella. Anyway, after an hour or so some BHs come, we fight, they die. My buffs are getting low so I head to the Science Outpost on Dath and log out sitting outside the cantina.


So, I go to Fry's and buy some more RAM for my box, and then head to the gym for an hour, and then go grocery shopping with the girlfriend. About 4 hours after I logged out I go to log back in. Right as the loading screen is coming up I hear the fight music kick in. So, for about 20 seconds I'm sitting there freaking out while the game finishes loading. As soon as the screen comes up I see the BH about 50m away from me. I pop my pixie stand and/forceran the hell out of there.


Turns out this guy waited for me on Dath for 4 hours while I was out. Talk about dedication...






I don't know if I'd call it that. . . .

10110110
Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:26 am
#5

Yep.


Dont delete your bounties if they log off. Most Jedi have so many little helper monkeysthese days that they know within seconds when they hit the terminals. If they are under Knight class they usually will log out to hide or pull the good 'ol /login /logout exploit to confound the droids. Anyone Knight or above doesnt care. Theylljust gather all thier PvP buddies and hang out somewhere until a BH shows up and GTEF them into oblivion to get rid of the bounty.


The smartest way to handle it is to wait. When you get sick of waiting, wait some more. Ive waited overnight on acouple PC bounties before I even considered hunting them. It works out alot better that way. For whatever reason some of these Jedi think that everything will be ok if they pull an instant cheat or log out for awhile. Boy are they wrong. I keep my bounties for as long as it takes to get them and I am definitely not in a rush.



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RaccaBoo
Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:26 am
#6

Yeah that has worked very good for me before. I collected on my first jedi and he was like "I was on the terminals?" It was about 3 days old too



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Atobe
Sun May 29, 2005 10:08 pm
#7



How does all the complaining about SWG -- and the Jedi situation -- help?


I freely admit: I'm as guilty of complaining aboutthe post-CU SWG situation as anyone else, yet the fact is: all theunfocused complaining in the multiverse is not going to change one damned thing in the minds of those who hold the future of our beloved game in their hands.


I can tell you from personal experience (as a commercial software developer with more than 20 years in the business) that "users" (that's us) complaining and whining to the developers (you know: the "them" and "they" as mentioned in so many articles on the SWG fora) does no good whatsoever. All that whining does is create an emotional barrier to the sort of creativity and problem-solving we absolutlely require from the SOE developers.


How would you feel if all that you'd worked and slaved over for months was as ridiculed, lambasted and pissed on as we've been doing to SWG before and after the CU? You'd feel bad, you'd feel impugned as a creator, and I guarantee you, you be less willing to expend the effort required to satisfy those who've been bitching at you like we've been doing to "the devs".


Except for the Jedi aspect (yes, I'm biased), the far greater majority of the CU has been implemented quite well. It has, and will continue, to improve the overall playability of SWG. Yes, it has bugs. Yes, it needs improvements and changes, even beyond the Jedi-related aspects. And thoseimprovments will come. As must be obvious to anyone: the CU was a MAJOR change to so many of the fundamental aspects of SWG that it may as well have been released as a different game.


And let us not forget: the problems resulting from the combat upgrade are the direct and sole responsibility of the SOE management in LA, who not only deemed (as so many other ignoramus management-types have done in years past) that coming to market, in time to achieve some thoroughly unachievalble marketing objective with a piss poor product, was more important to them than building what the designers of the product knew was right, workable (and, for a game, fun). SOE management also forced out many of the very people who could have provided the rational solutions for which we've been begging. (Yes, the SWG developers are people, 98% of whom love this game as much, or more,as you or I.)


Case in point: SOE released a reworked (at the behest of management) Combat Upgrade, instead of the original CU vision of the developers, just so it would be in place before the release of a movie unrelated to SWG (except for the commonality of the Star Wars universe). I have seen such stupidty time and time again in my own 20+ year career as a software developer. I'll be the last person on this planet to suggest that marketers are rational, but then again, most consumers aren't rational either (anyone around here remember "pet rocks"?).


So, could we all take a step back, and give the overworked (and likely underpaid) developers at SOE a frakkin break?! Personally, I would like to see every one of them given a month's paid vacation in their destination of choice, a sabbatical if you will. And when they come back, the best thing we could do for ourselves as players would be to givethose developersa consistent, rational and sensical list of the "warts" we see in the game, what we would like to see changed and how, and give them a frakkin chance to evaluate and implement fixes tothe problems that we and they both know exist?


Those who think that complaining louder and more iracibly than someone else will get more attention than those who speak with reason and patience are very deluded people indeed. In software development, the squeaky wheel does NOT get the grease. With money-makers like EQ and EQ2 to back them up, SOE management doesn't give a rodent's hairy behind what we, the devoted SWG players, think, if all we do is scream and yell like squalling infants. Even if every SWG player cancelled all of their accounts, do you really think SOE will care? Not bloody likely.


So, please, let's all take a step back, take a deep breath, and move on. If "moving on" means quitting SWG, so be it. It is a game, after all. And I wish you well in your other adventures. But for me, as of now, moving on means accepting the fact that we've just been through a major upgrade to the software application we've been using. If we want "fixes" that not only address our individual problems, but that don't break the game for everyone else, we've got to give thosepeople in development a chance!



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CPA
Sun May 29, 2005 10:10 pm
#8

RAGE AGAINST THE SOE MACHINE!!!



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jbdotcom
Sun May 29, 2005 11:30 pm
#9


Moving on is correct, I felt much better after hitting the cancel button on my alt. 3 weeks until my primary gets the same, unless thing dramatically improve.



JB


TooBlue
Sun May 29, 2005 11:43 pm
#10

While I agree 100% in the spirit of your post, I'd have to say that it's not the people themeselves thateveryone's upset with at this point but the way the customer has been treated. I've been silent on this issue for many months, but I'm tired of losing very close friends to the frustrationsof a 'you're at fault' customer service atmosphere.


At this point I think many people would be happy to hear, "we're working on resolving your issue". I myself got a response back from customer service regarding respecthat stated customer service was no longer addressing issues regarding respec.


I can't imagine any other business environment in which this kind of response would be tolerated by the customer.


Can you?






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Grienthumb
Sun May 29, 2005 11:44 pm
#11

Your totally wrong. Good long original post from the 80% I read.

I like to state things more simply. The jedi forums are a sewer. Dont believe half of it. And take none of it seriously except my posts of course

Message Edited by Grienthumb on 05-29-2005 11:45 PM

Grienthumb
Sun May 29, 2005 11:47 pm
#12

And btw the swg customers are spoiled brats, so many respecs and double exp and pampering the crying whining jedi community. Sickening really. The emperor would have taken a different route with so many whiners I assure you
Grienthumb
Sun May 29, 2005 11:51 pm
#13


And SonG, He is leaving as our cor. If I were him I would log into swg as Darth Vader one time and wipe out as many jedi as I could find LOL. Im sure he was frustrated hearing the constant cry from the jedi forum.


P.S. I love the cu and whats been done with this game. Kashyyyk is awsome. All the anti cu crusaders winding up to flame me, let me just sayup yours


Funnest post I have written in a long time!


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