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Thread: Exploit/Issue

Led_Zinum
Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:18 am
#1

Okay, I would like an answer to these. If you can post links or actual CSR quotes, I would appreciate it.


1) Is it in fact an exploit to heal your droid through some kind of bacta use?


2) Is it an issue or an exploit when a Jedi usesduel to know if you have his bounty contract?







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GlargTheKelfn
Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:20 am
#2

csr's dont count, only red name devs. csr's contradict each other and devs more often than they are consistant.

i would say (imho) neither are truly exploits, but both are very shady and im sure a fix will go in for both soon.




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Oblox
Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:21 am
#3

1) Is it in fact an exploit to heal your droid through some kind of bacta use?

Yes, PM a dev or correspondant to ask them.

They dont like details of exploits publically aired.

2) Is it an issue or an exploit when a Jedi uses duel to know if you have his bounty contract?

By definition yes beacuse its using an ability for personal advantage for something it wasnt intended to do. CSR's dont seem to care though much like with the above droids thing.



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Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:23 am
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lbfoofoo
Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:23 am
#5

the droid thing is not an exploit, it a programming issue since the droids use the same program code as pets and any jedi who claims "exploit" is a moron. I've had jedi heal my droid while we were using it to grab agro while I was helping them grind. If anyone one of those jedi ever claimed "exploit" then they would be guilty too and that would mean about half the Jedi on bloodfin. I've used my droid Billy during so many grinding sessions with guildmates.


The dule thing is not an exploit either, its bad coding on the devs part. Any jedi who claimes healing a droid is an exploit and then uses the duel is a moron. They can't say healing a droid is an exploit and then claim the duel isn't one. Its either they both are or they both aren't. Though the fact that ANY non jedi are allowed to play the game is an exploit in the mind of the jedi lol


GlargTheKelfn
Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:27 am
#6

its not just player droids. i was on lok and saw a few droidikas that would get blown apart, then majickly heal and reasemble (borg tech maybe ?

the only really bad issue is that you can't destroy a droid in a fight. if you incap it, heal fixes it. that would be as close to exploit as any of it gets, and that's still borderline imo.

but i guess by strict definition, they are all exploits. you are using the sytem in a manner it wasn't designed to obtain an advantage not available if the system was working as designed...

but hey, this game has so many bugs, what are 2 more




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Fett009
Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:37 am
#7






lbfoofoo wrote:

the droid thing is not an exploit, it a programming issue since the droids use the same program code as pets and any jedi who claims "exploit" is a moron. I've had jedi heal my droid while we were using it to grab agro while I was helping them grind. If anyone one of those jedi ever claimed "exploit" then they would be guilty too and that would mean about half the Jedi on bloodfin. I've used my droid Billy during so many grinding sessions with guildmates.






lol, your completly wrong m8, dont go by word of opinion by what u here ftom fellow BH who do this...


healing ur droid via bacta toss, area heal and even jediskill force infusionIS AN EXPLOIT


this is a mechanic in a game that is bugged and cant be used as an advanatage by the owner of the droid, in this case the BH...


once your probot or which ever droid u are using reaches 0/0 condition, it is required that the owner uses a "droid repair kit" to fix the droid, which are provided by droid engineers.


droids also have the option to " recover form incap" which isnt a droid command, but due to the fault in the in-game mechanic this option seems to occur...


using these faulty mechanics to your adavantage is what is called "exploiting" and just becuase both parties in this case use this, it still is an exploit

Message Edited by Fett009 on 09-21-2005 09:40 AM

Daeges
Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:46 am
#8

both are exploits = using unintended gaps in the game mechanics to gain advantage.



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lbfoofoo
Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:04 am
#9






Fett009 wrote:






lbfoofoo wrote:

the droid thing is not an exploit, it a programming issue since the droids use the same program code as pets and any jedi who claims "exploit" is a moron. I've had jedi heal my droid while we were using it to grab agro while I was helping them grind. If anyone one of those jedi ever claimed "exploit" then they would be guilty too and that would mean about half the Jedi on bloodfin. I've used my droid Billy during so many grinding sessions with guildmates.






lol, your completly wrong m8, dont go by word of opinion by what u here ftom fellow BH who do this...


healing ur droid via bacta toss, area heal and even jediskill force infusionIS AN EXPLOIT


this is a mechanic in a game that is bugged and cant be used as an advanatage by the owner of the droid, in this case the BH...


once your probot or which ever droid u are using reaches 0/0 condition, it is required that the owner uses a "droid repair kit" to fix the droid, which are provided by droid engineers.


droids also have the option to " recover form incap" which isnt a droid command, but due to the fault in the in-game mechanic this option seems to occur...


using these faulty mechanics to your adavantage is what is called "exploiting" and just becuase both parties in this case use this, it still is an exploit

Message Edited by Fett009 on 09-21-2005 09:40 AM




I'm not trying to justify using it. I've only used a droid a few times in battle with jedi only because they take 15 sec to call. My main issue is that Jedi call it an exploit yet don't think duel is an exploit. Either both ARE or both AREN'T exploits, it can't be one is and one isn't. Its funny, how jedi think me healing a droid is an exploit yet they don't mind healing them when we use them to grab agro. Even if i had droid repair kits and was able to use them during a battle to "heal" my droid, jedi would still say thats an exploit.
SpaceSnail
Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:12 am
#10

Unfortunately this is an exploit that can't really be avoided IE, I pull my pet out to try to wear some force down while cloaked jedi decloaks kills pet take some swings at me I use bacta spray to save my own skin and pet heals while I disagree with it it's not something I've intentionally done, bacta toss is another issue altogether.



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HeadRoll
Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:50 am
#11






GlargTheKelfn wrote:
csr's dont count, only red name devs. csr's contradict each other and devs more often than they are consistant.

i would say (imho) neither are truly exploits, but both are very shady and im sure a fix will go in for both soon.





/agree CSR's are just low minimum wage employees. Majority are jr high / high school kids who are making spare cash on the side. Beats working for McDonaltds I bet,



Kinshi
Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:19 am
#12



Led_Zinum wrote:
Okay, I would like an answer to these. If you can post links or actual CSR quotes, I would appreciate it.
1) Is it in fact an exploit to heal your droid through some kind of bacta use?
2) Is it an issue or an exploit when a Jedi usesduel to know if you have his bounty contract?





#1 no, I think this is unintentional but in the grand scheme of things really doesnt matter (tho it would be kind to the DEs to make the droids need to use the proper reapir kits rather than bacta). Either way I dont htink it messes anything up.

#2 yes, thats an exploit by far..tho I imagine in the near future, urban camo'ed Ranger/BH's with their holo-generators will be able to bypass this problem and make sure the Jedi is totally suprised when attacked.

anyway the /duel thing needs to be taken care of (of course you could just go ahead and accept the /duel and start the smackdown..I mean Iimagine if you are already close enough to your mark ro be targetd for a /duel, you had ought to be ready to fight anyway)
lbfoofoo
Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:16 pm
#13

the best fun comes from jedi you don't use a duel macro and don't end duel in time. I've killed jedi who weren't even my intended mark when they duled me. i accepted the duel before they ended it and taught them a lesson. i suggest all bh do this. I get nasty hate tells when i db a jedi who was not my mark but dueled me. i usually just replay with "cry more noob". then i will go after my mark lol.
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