Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: Bio Engineer Pricing
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Saggy-Baggins
Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:33 pm
#1
i just became a master bio-engineer last week and was wondering how all of you bio engineers price your items.
just looking for a couple ideas.
thanks alot. very much appreciated
saggy
Zadokk
Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:56 pm
#2
there have been many-a-threads about this. this is how I price (thanks to all the people that helped):
Pets: Complicated. Generally CL x 1000 (+10k for AR1). Non-ch pets are all 15k or less. Novice CH tanks (CL 11, 10k Health, 60% kinetic) are 35k. Triplet tanks (CL20 or less, 10k Health, 60% Kinetic, AR1) are 100k.
Pet Stims: Power x Uses / 10
Tailor Tissues: I consider +15 to be the standard (+16 for tensile)and price it at 2500cr per tissue. if its one point above then an extra 100cr, one point below -100cr and so on.
Chef Tissues: BSNs (+85 is standard) @ 1.5 million, +100k / -100k per point respectively on full runs (1000 units).
MNSs / INNs I havent made any yet, so have no price for them atm.
I can't really comment on how people like these prices as generally I only do mail order on thetissues. Chefs are having no complaints about the BSNs and I sell out of them before my factory run is finished.
Saggy-Baggins
Wed Jul 28, 2004 6:14 pm
#3
ok for the bsn's. is that per crate?
and 2500cr per tissue?
cuzi sold mine for 2.5cr per tissue. was just curious is that was right or wrong of me
Zadokk
Wed Jul 28, 2004 6:45 pm
#4
no 1.5 million for a full run (i believe i put that at the end 
) - chefs generally dont appreciate half runs and such because they see it as a waste as a schematic. i am yet to be asked for anything less than a full run so i think this pretty solid. this works out to 1,500cr per tissue or 37,500cr per crate.
) - chefs generally dont appreciate half runs and such because they see it as a waste as a schematic. i am yet to be asked for anything less than a full run so i think this pretty solid. this works out to 1,500cr per tissue or 37,500cr per crate.
aswex
Wed Jul 28, 2004 7:13 pm
#5
I'm currently changing how I price the chef and tailor tissues that I sell. I've almost got my chef tissue prices squared away. **Warning: I am a math teacher** Previously I considered +50/+80/+110 my 'base tissue' and priced those at 170% cost. For each additional +1 bonus I added 10%. This is a linear pricing scheme, however, and it doesn't accurately reflect that +81's aren't as difficult of an improvement from +80's as +87's are from +86's. Therefore, I just finished putting together a new pricing scheme, and that sucker required me to solve a system of three parabolic equations with three variables. Good preparation for school, though, I guess. I didn't need to do this, of course, but using MNS's as an example, I wanted my +50s to be priced at 150% cost, my +80s (hypothetical best MNS bonus) to be priced at 500% cost, and my +53s to be the same cost as my current +53s. I had to find the equation of the curve that would hit all three points. Now I'm working on determining what effect the organic, flora food, and creature food have on the final product and final price so I can determine how much more I should pay for better ingredients. I haven't started to work on tailor prices yet, but my old system was linear as well. I considered +13 my 'base tissue' and priced those at 200% cost. For each additional +1 bonus I add 10%, except for active biosensors, active tranquilizers and enhanced myoflex treatments where I would only add 2.5% (since I only make +13's and anything higher is really a mistake and shouldn't cost my customers significantly more). This pricing scheme will eventually change as well, but right now my brain hurts.
PurpleWarrior
Thu Jul 29, 2004 5:48 pm
#6
I use linear pricing scales.
Chef tissues - each has a 30 point range
MNS (31-60) 45cr/point over 30
BSN (61-90) 55cr/point over 60
INN (91-120) 65cr/point over 90
Yes, this means if I make anything more than 15 points below the max I make a loss *grins* but the lowest I make in each range is +52, +84, +115 so it's not a problem.
Tailor Tissues
Easy Tissues 150cr per highest bonus point - so +15/+15 costs 15*150 = 2250cr each
Hard Tissues 200cr per highest bonus point. (to me 'hard' tissues need Mollusk, Eggs or Milk - you work out your own difficulty criteria) so a +15/+15 tissue costs 15*200 = 3000cr each.
Pets:
1Kper Creature Level + 10K for light armour.
CL10 'tanks' 20K (anything with 4K or more of HAM)
pets over CL50 by special order only - and priced accordingly.
Lozareth
Thu Jul 29, 2004 8:08 pm
#7
I price solely by resource cost and mark-up by 30%. Though I do always consider flora to have a cost of 5cpu eventhough it's far far cheaper when you harvest your own.
GMANHNC
Fri Jul 30, 2004 1:47 pm
#8
I use the BE Calc on the swg.warcry.com site, and then subtract $40k. I think the guy that made it is on Bria, and they are a little out of hand over there. (no offense to fellow Bria'n BE's)
OditeFosore
Fri Jul 30, 2004 2:05 pm
#9
As a chef, I pay 22.5k - 30kfor micronutrients, 31.5k-40k for broad spectrums, and 40.5k-50 for intelligents. This is on Intrepid and we currently have less dependable BE's than other servers from what I've heard. I use only 55/85/115 + nutrients and pay the higher end of the scale for anything above these mins.
Aori
Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:24 am
#10
Man...I really wish some of you guys were making Tailor Tissues on my server.Those are very good prices. 
On Scylla, we have people who sell their tissues for about 3k (75k a crate) each and those who sell their tissues for up to 10k each (250k a crate). As if finding BE tissues weren't hard enough here, finding ones that you can reasonably buy can be harder than finding an uber weapon. :/
On Scylla, we have people who sell their tissues for about 3k (75k a crate) each and those who sell their tissues for up to 10k each (250k a crate). As if finding BE tissues weren't hard enough here, finding ones that you can reasonably buy can be harder than finding an uber weapon. :/
Seraphym14
Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:15 am
#11
we currently have less dependable BE's than other servers
Well, /laughs - I charge 30/35/45 respectively with tailor tissues running anywhere from 25k to 37.5k depending on which it is (can't get anyone to harvest eggs or milk so I do it myself).
My hubby and I have 14 factories running constantly and we supply and deliver to 15-20 chefs on Intrepid. Not sure how much more dependable a BE can be when our meat hunters are evaporating.
Well, /laughs - I charge 30/35/45 respectively with tailor tissues running anywhere from 25k to 37.5k depending on which it is (can't get anyone to harvest eggs or milk so I do it myself).
My hubby and I have 14 factories running constantly and we supply and deliver to 15-20 chefs on Intrepid. Not sure how much more dependable a BE can be when our meat hunters are evaporating.
Zadokk
Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:34 am
#12
Aori wrote:
Man...I really wish some of you guys were making Tailor Tissues on my server.Those are very good prices.
i've even lowered mine now to 2k (+15) per tissue cos they aint sellin lol.
OditeFosore
Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:06 am
#13
And you're by far the most dependable chef tissue suppliers in the galaxy. I have tried spreading my business around and have been let down several times by other BE's that can't keep up with demand or whose quality fluctuates to levels that will make food undesireable. I guess I should learn my lesson and go to you all the time.
Seraphym14 wrote:
we currently have less dependable BE's than other servers
Well, /laughs - I charge 30/35/45 respectively with tailor tissues running anywhere from 25k to 37.5k depending on which it is (can't get anyone to harvest eggs or milk so I do it myself).
My hubby and I have 14 factories running constantly and we supply and deliver to 15-20 chefs on Intrepid. Not sure how much more dependable a BE can be when our meat hunters are evaporating.
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