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Thread: Level 35, 60% kinetic, 1st gen, armor, high ham
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Sorvad
Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:24 pm
#1
Merek Harvester
Merek Harvester
Rancor
Rancor
Giant Biz Natch
Experiment prowess up to max. This is required to get fortitude > 500 for armor.
Results in level 35, armor, 60% kinetic, vulnerable to all else, no ranged.
Ham's in 3 tries:
11 / 10 / 9
12/ 9.2 / 9.1
11.9 / 9 / 8
Specials have come out as stun & intimidate or just dizzy.
What do you think sirs?
shargus
Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:44 pm
#2
Seems like a nice kinetic tank based on the HAM stats butwhat do the other stats look like? Damage? toHit? AttackSpeed?
Sorvad
Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:13 pm
#4
Speed is about 2.1, to hit 0.3x and damage 310-320.
I only have one of the pets still, I'd have to ask about the other 2 but I imagine they're close.
I haven't tried increasing aggression to see if the damage can be increased and still keep it level 35, but that would be worth a check.
Sorvad
Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:25 pm
#5
Sorvad wrote:
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Experiment prowess up to max. ...
Oops, meant Physique.
Sorvad
Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:43 pm
#6
I made a couple more to test the border with the agression.
I put a couple points into agression and got:
Level 36: HAM 11.5 / 9.3 / 9.4, damage 360-370
Then I tried just 1 point:
Level 35: HAM 10.9 / 9.7 / 9.3, damage 330-340
ALl the other stats are the same between these 2 and they came out with stun and intimidate.
SO if the ham doesn't come out too high then you can put a point into agression. But you're close to the border of level 36.
I made a 3rd that came out with no specials, ham 10.9, 9.4, 9.2 and I got its damage up to 360-370 and its onlylevel 33.
NancyJ
Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:38 am
#7
So nice to see new members of the community sharing recipes 
Sets a good example
5 stars for you
Sets a good example
5 stars for you
lammergeier
Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:27 pm
#8
merek harvester
merek*
corellian butterfly defender
corellian butterfly defender
merek*
(where merek* was either a merek harvester or a delerious merek avenger, depending on my mood) was also giving me CL31-37 1st gen clones (albeit with ranged attack) with AR1 k60% and about 12k/10k/8k HAM.
I've since started working with jax and mantigrue (blooming and night stalker types), as suggested by arthurdentonbria. ideally, a CL in the low 30's with good stats could be made with a single trip to endor. sampling DNA from donors that don't deathblow, and on a single planet, speeds up collection immeasurably.
since kinetic resist caps at 60%, you might want to back off on the donors... harvester x1, delerious x2, and something to strip the remainder x2 will keep you from hitting a natural kinetic resist of 60+, only to see it lopped of at the hardcap.
merek*
corellian butterfly defender
corellian butterfly defender
merek*
(where merek* was either a merek harvester or a delerious merek avenger, depending on my mood) was also giving me CL31-37 1st gen clones (albeit with ranged attack) with AR1 k60% and about 12k/10k/8k HAM.
I've since started working with jax and mantigrue (blooming and night stalker types), as suggested by arthurdentonbria. ideally, a CL in the low 30's with good stats could be made with a single trip to endor. sampling DNA from donors that don't deathblow, and on a single planet, speeds up collection immeasurably.
since kinetic resist caps at 60%, you might want to back off on the donors... harvester x1, delerious x2, and something to strip the remainder x2 will keep you from hitting a natural kinetic resist of 60+, only to see it lopped of at the hardcap.
ArthurDentOnBria
Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:07 pm
#9
I think that's a pretty clever combine actually. I'd imagine that your creature hits pretty hard for a creature of that CL.
Also, the Giant Baz Nitch thing has got me thinking.... relatively high fortitude... hits pretty hard... no specials... vuls to just about everything but kinetic and energy.... hmm, should be a cool way to exploit that into something really cool
thanks for the post!
Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 09-08-2004 01:08 PM
Sorvad
Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:37 pm
#10
That other level 30's formula looks pretty similar in the resulting pet stats. I hadn't seen that exact forumla before. I'll give that one a try too.
I'd like to find a good substitute for the Rancor to use in my recipe.Preferably something from Endor. I agree its easier if all the sampling is off one planet. Looks like some type of Handahak might work. I'll try those and see what I get.
It would also be nice not use onlyone MH rather than 2 of themin the first 2 slots. But I don't see the kinetic getting up to 60% with just 1 MH. The formula is .4 + .25 + .05 + .05 + .25 right? If I use 1 x MH then I'd need50% average kinetic for the other 4 slots in order to get 60% output. Or is there something more to it?
lammergeier
Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:11 pm
#11
Sorvad wrote:But I don't see the kinetic getting up to 60% with just 1 MH. The formula is .4 + .25 + .05 + .05 + .25 right? If I use 1 x MH then I'd need 50% average kinetic for the other 4 slots in order to get 60% output. Or is there something more to it?
bah. math time. double check me.
merek harvester is 75% kinetic... delerious merek avenger is 45% kinetic.
MH (+30)
DMA (+11.25)
CBD (+0.25)
CBD (+0.25)
DMA (+11.25)
gives a kinetic resist of +53. I'd have to recheck my combines, but I remember getting +60 by adding ONE MH to the mix in the first slot.
the DMA DMA CBD CBD DMA mix gives +41 kinetic, both by using that formula, and through clone testing.
there are three seperate explanations I can see for this disparity (between +60 and +53):
1) I screwed up somewhere, or I used resampled DNA when I was trying the harvester DNA... or I used two harvester DNA.
2) the math on the formulae isn't 100% accurate.
3) light armor +resist adds more to the equation than simple resists.
as an aside... when putting stun resists on AR1, I notice that the stun resist will stay at, say, 30%... UNTIL I hit light armor, at which point it will drop to 6%.
lammergeier
Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:13 pm
#12
lammergeier wrote:
merek harvester
merek*
corellian butterfly defender
corellian butterfly defender
merek*
(where merek* was either a merek harvester or a delerious merek avenger, depending on my mood) was also giving me CL31-37 1st gen clones (albeit with ranged attack) with AR1 k60% and about 12k/10k/8k HAM.
I've since gotten some of these attempts down to CL29.
droid327
Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:11 pm
#13
id advise going HQ or VHQ on the Rancors and AA on the Nitch since the rancors specials are going to be a lot better than dizzy
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