Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: I don't Understand....
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Mannee
Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:27 am
#1
I'm a 2,1,1,1 CH, a 4,3,44 Scout, and planning on dabbling in BE. I am also a Master Marksman and Novice Medic grinding lvl 3 Org Chem soon to be lvl 4 grinding. I read suggestions that CHs should get their pets from BEs? That sounds rather ridiculous to me since in the real world any Elephant or Lion seen in the local circus has not only been tamed by CHs in the employ of the circus but also trained by them likewise.
The thought of having to buy my Ronto or Dewback from a BE is repulsive as the tamed and trained animal is far superior to a BE pet. I am planning on entering the BE prof to BE my tamed and trained pet stats to make them more viable but not superior to the natural counterpart which is not possible. The primary reason why is bcasue any NPC creature is inherently superior to its' tamed counterpart due to the fact that bugs krept into the code prevent tamed pets from using their ful lability in combat. That includes ranged attacks. Matter of fact, the only animal I have ever tamed and used in combat which exhibited ranged attacks was a Cu Pa. Thus, BE a tamed pet only makes it slighty more viable in abttle but not superior until the CH bugs are fixed.
From reading this board on BE, I am looking forward to it.
Kevm
Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:33 am
#2
What do you mean 'BE a tamed pet'? Good quality BE pets are supperior to pets in the wild for almost any given CL. You cannot use any BE skill to adjust or change the stats of any tamed pet from the wild.
GryphonsRose
Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:38 am
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Im afraid you are under a misunderstanding. BE's cant not in any way affect already tamed pets. Only thing a BE can do is ... bio-engineer a clone. That is create a clone (pet deed) from various dna samples of different creatures.
Another thing, the assumption that pets found in the wild are better than any BE cloned pet is a bit premature. What the BE is tailored to is being able to make specialized pets for the customers (or the BE's own evilly demented) plans. Need a pet with strong poison and stunning strike? Or perhaps need a mount strong enough to assist the CH in combat? These are the things that BE's can do.
Mannee
Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:16 am
#4
Much appreciated for letting me know this. I am currently able to tame anything from lvl 0 to lvl 20 and find the lvl 20 Dews I have quite capable in a fight. The "Follow" bug in the bantha caused me to release it back into the wild. The "Follow" bug on other pets is seldom and tolerable but the Bantha is horrible in certain circumstances.
If being a BE will allow me to sample resources and create a pet, I see no reason why a BE can't modify a tamed animals stats through genetic manipulation, etc. The Geonosian facility will be an interesting Theme Park when ready.
My suggestion is for the Devs to allow BE of tamed pets to elevate their stats and lvl as well as allowing cloning.
Mirrl
Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:45 am
#5
Yes but would you like a CL 20 Dewback with light armor, 50 kinetic resist, stunning strike and strong poison? With enough work a BE can make a pet like that. (Admittedly the last time I tried it was CL22)
Mannee wrote:
Much appreciated for letting me know this. I am currently able to tame anything from lvl 0 to lvl 20 and find the lvl 20 Dews I have quite capable in a fight.
Novock
Wed Sep 22, 2004 2:56 pm
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I don't understand... I have been a smuggler since I started the game back in early feb 2004. I have seen the countless "we love you guys .... ok now back to something.... someone else than those pesky smugglers" treatment of the smuggler in the game. I have posted some things I thought were interesting and other have not. I have seen some very intriguing ideas for the future of the smuggler profession and understand a lot of code must be written and revamped to make smuggler what it ought to be. And even if I can turn my opitmism back on and try to get the devs a 2nd or 100th chance which ever one we are on now there is one thing I don't understand....
Despite any differences in thoughts of the directionof this profession I believe we are all in agreement we need some simple things that are already existin game that shouldn't be that hard to give to smugglers. Such as a little pistol speed and accuracy and maybe a little melee defense (ranged would be nice too). These things are not revolutionary.... i don't understand why after all this time we can't get these little items.
Message Edited by Novock on 09-22-200403:06 PM
Message Edited by Novock on 09-22-2004 03:07 PM
fishbrains
Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:12 pm
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Novock wrote:
I don't understand... I have been a smuggler since I started the game back in early feb 2004. I have seen the countless "we love you guys .... ok now back to something.... someone else than those pesky smugglers" treatment of the smuggler in the game. I have posted some things I thought were interesting and other have not. I have seen some very intriguing ideas for the future of the smuggler profession and understand a lot of code must be written and revamped to make smuggler what it ought to be. And even if I can turn my opitmism back on and try to get the devs a 2nd or 100th chance which ever one we are on now there is one thing I don't understand....
Despite any differences in thoughts of the directionof this profession I believe we are all in agreement we need some simple things that are already existin game that shouldn't be that hard to give to smugglers. Such as a little pistol speed and accuracy and maybe a little melee defense (ranged would be nice too). These things are not revolutionary.... i don't understand why after all this time we can't get these little items.
Message Edited by Novock on 09-22-200403:06 PM
Message Edited by Novock on 09-22-2004 03:07 PM
I honestly don't want anything like this untill either the CB or our revamp. Every bit of love they give us before our revamp makes it easier for them do delay it again.
Delaorn
Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:18 pm
#8
The thing I forsee, is a bad thing,
My best pal had a BH. When the requirments for BH got dropped, he climed uptwo smugggler trees. And still this is how he plays out his char, with some tk on the side. I see alot of people doing now. It's not a good thing for us.
I'm not willing to put any credits on the table saying we will even get glanced at when it comes down to helping us out.
Novock
Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:31 pm
#9
fishbrains wrote:
I honestly don't want anything like this untill either the CB or our revamp. Every bit of love they give us before our revamp makes it easier for them do delay it again.
I knew somebody would answer in this fashion, but I don't forsee us getting anything so I wouldn't fret over my comments. I was just stating the fact that I don't understand. These items didn't need to be invented they were already there and yet they still could not take the time to work them into smuggler. Oh well. I have already retired pistoleer and I'm considering hard the same with smuggler though to eb a smuggler was why I bought the game in the first place. These simple things would actualy go a long way with me, the combat revamp is going to be atleast another year offthen we have GCW before we even begin on the smuggler revamp, I personally would like more functionability for smuggler in the meantimebut Irecognize your feelings on the matter. Oh well i'm not a "super forum poster" but I pay my subscription fees like everyone else so atleast I feel I'm entitled to my opinion.
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