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I definately don't want to describe the BE's role in destroying faction bases, as its the only real time consuming item in destroying bases - and I definately don't want every novice BE who has never taken biology to have a walkthrough.

That said, I do realize how the codons should line up. From my experience, it seems that you have to create codons to match the half given you. The problem is.. that doesn't work.

Is there a minimum number of codons you must match? I have never been successfull without matching a minimum of 24 codons (some odd refrence to the number of *human* chromosomes?) Is this a necessary requirement?

Secondly, the listing of the previous matched codons seems to bear little resemblance to the last set of codons you used.. is this correct?

I should probably just take 100 screenshots next time I'm at the BE terminal and see if I can make any sence of it... so I guess what I'm asking is:

-Is the be terminal working as its supposed to?
-Is there a minimum number of codons we have to match before we can match the DNA (aside from the lower bound of creating the necessary codons)?
-Are the atcg matching up as they are supposed to? It seems backwards but the entire terminal doesn't make much sence so I may be mistaken.

I'm not asking for spoilers here.. In fact I'm requesting that any information that would assist be's in doing this be expressly excluded. Destroying a base should be tough and a walkthrough is not something that needs to be around.

Actually, I think the puzzles for the other classes should be harder.

this really isnt a spoiler, it is needed info that they just dont tell you. but if you dont really want to read it, im gonna put it inblack text, cut n paste the next "line" into notepad.

You are correct about the DNA pairs to match being 24. when yer in the doing the terminal, you are attempting to pass yourself off as one of the ranking officers at that base. The smuggler is doing the same thing, cept his part is a lot easier. Since the ID process mimics Gatica, you have to essentially hack your dna into the system, but before you can do that, you have to successfully make the computer think someone important is there. The game itself is poorly implemented since you get literally no instructions, but that is a different issue.

I'll have to admit, I never fully understood the process myself. I've done couple base hacks and was able to muddle through it, but it was a lot of random selection for me near the end.

(in regards to the blank spoiler): that's what I figured first off, but when I select a pair that should match up (lets assume 1&3 bind together and 2&4 bind together in numberical dna) they don't result in a matched pair. i.e. if we get 12,21,34,43 and I make a pair 34 from the available soup and select it, it does not result in a match with the original 12. That's whats throwing me off. I really think the interface needs reworded/reworked. It makes sence to basically throw the player off into the deep end when working on the terminals. You don't know exactly what to do, and are in a time limited high stress life & death situation. It makes for some great gameplay. I definately do _not_ think it should be intuitive as to what to do (as the other classes are). I'm still waiting for the "aha!" moment.. hopefully it'll come soon. I'll probably have to take screenshots and go over them later and analyze them to see what isn't clicking for me.

Also, assuming the 24 is related to human chromosomes... why? there are plenty of non-human species that will have a different number of chromosomes (at least, I'd think they would)

Talthazar, its nice to know someone is in the same boat as I am

There's definitely an AHA! moment. I just did my 3rd base and finally got it. It's hard to believe how easy it really is once you figure it out. I spent 10 minutes on my firsttry and only had 23/24 when we crashed half the planet! This last time it took2 minutes at mostto do (I didn't time it, I will next time). I'd be glad to help people out, but I don't want to spoil it for those who want to get it on their own.

Tressina , Bria

Last time I was at the base. The terminal didn't even work

Actually I was able to successfully destroy a faction base on mytwelth try. You are right about the number 24 though. I won't say anymore so as not to spoil the "aha moment" you experience when the answer finally dawns on you. Good luck and keep experimenting!

Ok.. as long as there is an "aha!" moment in there, I'll keep working at it. I was worried that there wasn't one and it was bugged

Thx for the info!

Am I missing something, what are y'all talking about? What faction bases are you talking about? Any info aside from vague references would be appreciated. Thanks.

You know those bases that players can buy for obscene amounts of faction? Well, a well-coordinated group of players from the opposite faction can destroy them if they solve a few puzzles at the correct time of the day and stop any of the owning faction from stopping the destruction sequence for anywhere from 9 to 16 minutes.

Aha. Thanks.

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Tressa wrote:

There's definitely an AHA! moment. I just did my 3rd base and finally got it. It's hard to believe how easy it really is once you figure it out. I spent 10 minutes on my firsttry and only had 23/24 when we crashed half the planet! This last time it took2 minutes at mostto do (I didn't time it, I will next time). I'd be glad to help people out, but I don't want to spoil it for those who want to get it on their own.

Tressina , Bria

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Well said about the AHA! moment. I finally saw the light on base #3.

It feels good to be able to do it in 2 to 5 minutes, when it used to take 10 to 15.

Staubach