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Thread: Another broken tissue?

TeufelhundSoldat
Wed Dec 03, 2003 4:04 am
#1

I was wondering if anyone has made any of the fear release tissues and added them to clothing. I made one that is+13 and the other one was +12 for a total of the max +25 to Intimidation and Warcry. Well I had them put into Reinforced Fiber Panels and then made into clothing. A form fitting shirt and reinforced pants I think they were called.


I then equiped them and was eager to go out and give them a try since I just picked brawler up and I am at unarmed III. I looked in my skill box and it said Warcry 0/+25. Well I went out and did a Warcry on a creature and still got the same 10 second delay on them as normal, and I did not notice an increase in succes in Intimidate or Warcry.


So I guess my question is...what exactly does this tissue do? Anyone do any testing with this particular tissue? Thanks in advance.




Teufelhund
Intrepid
Synister Yet Noble Guild Leader
SYN City Dantooine
StarBase
Wed Dec 03, 2003 6:03 am
#2

Wondering why your stat says 0/25? You had no skill in it before the clothes? Maybe that is why?


Tal-N
Wed Dec 03, 2003 7:26 am
#3

Now that you mention it I'm not sure if there is a skill mod actually pre-existing for Warcry. That would explain why it's 0/+26 since the mod doesn't actually appear for brawlers. I'll have to check this for my commando char actually.




Tal-N Chratk
Ahazi Master Bioengineer / Hunt Master / Rifleman
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NalfeinQ
Wed Dec 03, 2003 7:45 am
#4

Used to be trying for fencer (Man was I a fool) and back in those days my warcry modifier never showed up ever. Did you see any stats before putting on the clothes? if so, what were they?



Nalfein - Dancer/Tailor
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hananoken
Wed Dec 03, 2003 9:32 am
#5

You don't get a base Intimidate/Warcry skillrating unless you go Master Brawler. Either you still get the clothing bonus or you don't get any use out of it untill you actually have somebase rating in the particular skill in question. I've heard both theories, it would be nice to know for certain. The only evidence I have is anecdotal, a friend of mine wearing a shirt said it seemed to work better on NPCs, but that could be coincidence or even a trick of the mind. Because you can still use the Intimidate and Warcry skills without being a Master Brawler (just like you can fight with your fists without having Unarmed I even) my personal theory is that the clothing does have an effect and does give you a bonus, to whatever your base skill (i don't think your base skill is 0, I think your modifier is 0, and your base skill is some hidden number) but I could be wrong. Be nice if someone knew for sure.



Sebca En'wil


Master Bioengineer


Novice Fencer


Imperial Planetologist, Flurry




Colonel Sebca En'wil
Master Bioengineer
Master Smuggler
Imperial Planetologist, Flurry
Exploiting the Galactic Ecosystem since 2003
StarBase
Wed Dec 03, 2003 11:58 am
#6

I'm thinking if you have no base skill, the modifyer does nothing. For example: if you have 0/25 in Doctor healing and don't even have novice medic, you are not going to be able to use Stim Packs? If you have 0/25 in Dancer Healing and are not a dancer, you will not be able to dance.
TeufelhundSoldat
Wed Dec 03, 2003 2:44 pm
#7

Thanks for the replies. When the clothing is not there the modifier is 0. But I do have Warcry 1 which is given to you at novice brawler. So its not like I am try to heal without medic or try to dance without dancer. Is there a number there for master brawler? Anyone else have any ideas?



Teufelhund
Intrepid
Synister Yet Noble Guild Leader
SYN City Dantooine
Tal-N
Wed Dec 03, 2003 3:29 pm
#8

Sounds more like it might be another UI bug, technically just by having warcry and intimidation you should have a minimum of +1. But as well have learnt many times what appears on the skills menu is utterly different to what is happening. I'd say add this to the buglist to get some confirmation on.



Tal-N Chratk
Ahazi Master Bioengineer / Hunt Master / Rifleman
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Shadowfire Bounterhunter / Commando

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