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Thread: KD/Dizzy pets? In demand?

EirCH
Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:08 am
#1

I made some nice KD/Dizzy pets, about level 40, AR1, 60% kin, and all that jazz. So, I put them up for sale and NOTHING! Now, I realize there is speculation on the KD special, but people used to be falling all over themselves for pets with KD/Dizzy...no matter if it worked or not. So, do you guys see a demand for these pets on your server? Just curious.


Thanks,



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Iesee
Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:13 am
#2

I know as a consumer I would love to get my hands on one. Unfortunately I"m on the eclipse server right now and am having a tough time finding any BE's that offer pets like this. I am unaware although of whether the KD/Dizzy is working correctly but I"ve been searching for something like this for quite sometime now.

If anyone on Eclipse offers pets like this plz send ingame e'mail to cowpoke



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Animi
Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:26 am
#3

In my mind, the kd/dizzy and dizzy/crippling strike combos are really only good for PvP pets. If you can get your pet to land one of those combos, your opponent is in for a world of hurt.


On the PvE front, knockdowns, posture changes and dizzy states by your pet don't have much of an affect and rarely stick. The dizzy might be good to land if you have a strong knockdown move on your own, but it doesn't seem to work that often.


In my mind, for PvE, it's all about damage taken and damage given. Having specials like intimidate and stun, or perhaps blind, are good because they prevent the mob from attacking you and your pet as much. Those are on the damage taken side. On the damage given side, poison and disease are good because they hit your target for extra damage, poison being the better of the two. A pet with strong poison and intimidate (or stun or blind) would be a good PvE pet.




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EirCH
Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:32 am
#4

Ah, good feedback Trost, thanks. Nice to hear some constructive feedback. I think maybe I'll try to toy with the DNA to make the heat/ele/bla resists higher to make this a more powerful PvP pet. Thanks again! Any others have comments?



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Akelan
Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:46 am
#5

KD/Dizzy is a very powerful combination, but the current unfortunate truth is that KD as a special is horribly bugged, to the point of being ineffectual.

PvP is not the only place it is useful, as it works wonders on primarily kinetic creature opponents that rely on posture for their attacks. If a player uses a KD and I can use my pet's dizzy to keep the mob down, the battle is over. Any mission against humanoid opponents is very much easier with a KD/Dizzy combination.

I am making pets with this combination by request, but I am informing my customers that it is broken atm. Some elect to believe it will be fixed in the future and go with it, others decide to go stun/dizzy or cripple/dizzy, which also make good combinations.

BTW, if you are looking for good DNA to work in with the KD/Dizzy combination into mid-level pets, Ravenous Tortons on Rori are a great source.

Llan
Animi
Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:58 am
#6


If you really want to make strong PvP pets, start harvesting bloodseeker mite ("BSM") orBSM Hunter DNA on Endor. Go to the desert north of the smuggler outpost (and usually north of the battlefield) to find them. They both have a dizzy/crippling strike combo with ranged attack. The regular bloodseeker has100% resists to heat, acid and electricity.Basically,kinetic and stun damageare their achille's heal, but you canmix BSM Hunter DNA in with the normal BSM DNA to get resists to all but blast and cold.


For non-ch PvE pets, I like anglers. They have 10% resists to all but stun and they have a strong poison/intimidate combo. Really easy to turn these into level 10 pets with some decent across the board resists and nice specials.


The arachnes (venon-filled arachnes, arachne warriors, webmasters and widows) are also good, with the strong poison and blind or stunplus REALLY nice resists. Other PvE possibilities include the toxic merek battlelord and the spitting rawl. All of these creatureshave strong poison mixed in with stun or blind. The problem is that they all take some refinement to get down to level 10.Makinggreat triplets or doubles pets is much easier, though.





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EirCH
Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:01 pm
#7

Ok, thanks again Trost....


Anyway, I have made the angler non-ch pets, too and they were popular....However, I'm asking about KD/Dizzy CH pets here.





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Animi
Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:19 pm
#8






EirCH wrote:

Ok, thanks again Trost....


Anyway, I have made the angler non-ch pets, too and they were popular....However, I'm asking about KD/Dizzy CH pets here.









Well, as was stated previously, the KD move for creatures isn't working. That's why I gave you the suggestion of bloodseeker mites and bloodseeker mite hunters. Crippling strike is a posture change move. When combined with dizzy, this is, in effect, the only way to knock down an opponent with a pet. With the high resists on the BSM and BSM hunter, you can make great mid-level CH pets. Much better pets than using the ravenous tortons, IMHO.


Now, if you want to stick with the non-functional KD/dizzy combo, feel free. I'm just telling you what my experiences have been and giving you the DNA types I like to use.




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CrasknSadler
Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:24 pm
#9


KD/Dizzy broken? Not from what I've seen....I made a vicious little kusak for my hunting partner out of Frenzied Graul/Vexed Voritor DNA (Dantooine- come for the purple hills, stay for the salad bar!)


My partner took Dodger to the Tusken Fort.


For the record, Dodger doesn't like Tuskens.


Not even a little bit.


His KD/DIzzy was working fine. What was odd, however, was the fact that he became quite willful and began attacking Tuskens on his own recognizance. Strange....


Some offered half a mil for Dodger. My partner refused.

Yeah, it's working just fine. Just ask the Tusken King.


Oh, wait...you can't anymore....
neinnunb
Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:46 pm
#10

From my experience Dizzy is awesome for PvP or attackingNPC's.. love it when they keep falling, and falling and the pet I use has Dizzy in the 1 and 2 specials.



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ryandrew2022
Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:03 pm
#11

I have like 20 non-CH pets that have KD/Dizzy or Cripple/Dizzy and on my own non-ch pet I have a ranged dizzy...I can get the dizzy to stick a lot but when I use pistol whip it knocks them down and they get right back up...but when I get dizzied I'm screwed and can't get up for awhile. So does KD/Dizzy work on NPCs and PvP and not for PvE?



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EirCH
Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:03 am
#12






Animi wrote:


For non-ch PvE pets, I like anglers. They have 10% resists to all but stun and they have a strong poison/intimidate combo. Really easy to turn these into level 10 pets with some decent across the board resists and nice specials.







Sorry, I was talking about this...bah! It is neither here nor there. Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions guys.



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PolePoker
Thu Mar 11, 2004 7:55 am
#13

"For non-ch PvE pets, I like anglers. They have 10% resists to all but stun and they have a strong poison/intimidate combo. Really easy to turn these into level 10 pets with some decent across the board resists and nice specials. "


Real easy, how?





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