Bio Engineer Archive

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Beswa wrote:

Hola fellow BEs,

I was experimening with the unarmed damage/terrain negotiation last night and the damage Mods arenot working, I have no combat skills at all and was dueling a master TKA, without any on, with a +5 on, a +6 on and a +13 on and everytime, the damage from mele strike was 403. But apparently TKA damage is broked at the moment anyway.

the terrain negotiatino seemd to work fine though.

Can anyone confirm this, and has anyone got anywhere with that list of working tissues Arthur was talking about before he departed?

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This may be your problem right here.You may wanna test on creatures not PvP. There are modifiers/caps and differences to PvP as opposed to PvE. Being you have no combat skills, there is probably a cap. Also, did the person have a knuckler of any kind equipped. Damage is modified differently when you have one equipped. An accurate test would just be bare hands.

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Psychopyro80 wrote:

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Beswa wrote:

Hola fellow BEs,

I was experimening with the unarmed damage/terrain negotiation last night and the damage Mods arenot working, I have no combat skills at all and was dueling a master TKA, without any on, with a +5 on, a +6 on and a +13 on and everytime, the damage from mele strike was 403. But apparently TKA damage is broked at the moment anyway.

the terrain negotiatino seemd to work fine though.

Can anyone confirm this, and has anyone got anywhere with that list of working tissues Arthur was talking about before he departed?

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This may be your problem right here.You may wanna test on creatures not PvP. There are modifiers/caps and differences to PvP as opposed to PvE. Being you have no combat skills, there is probably a cap. Also, did the person have a knuckler of any kind equipped. Damage is modified differently when you have one equipped. An accurate test would just be bare hands.

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Beswa wrote:

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Psychopyro80 wrote:

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Beswa wrote:

Hola fellow BEs,

I was experimening with the unarmed damage/terrain negotiation last night and the damage Mods arenot working, I have no combat skills at all and was dueling a master TKA, without any on, with a +5 on, a +6 on and a +13 on and everytime, the damage from mele strike was 403. But apparently TKA damage is broked at the moment anyway.

the terrain negotiatino seemd to work fine though.

Can anyone confirm this, and has anyone got anywhere with that list of working tissues Arthur was talking about before he departed?

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This may be your problem right here. You may wanna test on creatures not PvP. There are modifiers/caps and differences to PvP as opposed to PvE. Being you have no combat skills, there is probably a cap. Also, did the person have a knuckler of any kind equipped. Damage is modified differently when you have one equipped. An accurate test would just be bare hands.

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he was indeed using just his fists, I'll run another test with th esame clothes tonight against PvE targets and update later on

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other things to note for testing:

accuracy increases damage, and defenses decrease damage.

the CL system has a hidden system of metrics it applies on CL vs CL... if your CL is higher than the target, you get an acc and def bonus... if your CL is lower, you lose acc and def.

UA damage seems to only function bare-knuckled, as noted above... equipping a weapon seems to remove all +dmg mods.

the best test here would be:

PvE
matched CL
no weapon equipped
knock a few hits without the clothes, check the combat spam, and then wear the clothes and knock a few more hits.

the enhancement might be very small... but the fact that CLOTHING, rather than armor, offers this mod, AND ADDS TERRAIN NEGOTIATION, ought to make this tissue desirable for TKA's... who do NOT have innate terr neg, but who do have innate armor and a use for any enhancement to damage.

whether this is a core system, TKA, tailor, or BioE issue is another argument. I'll include it in BioE simply because we make the tissues that tailors use to make the clothes that TKA's use... but that doesn't mean that it IS a BioE issue, since BioE can't directly make the product, nor can they directly benefit from the use of that product.

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lammergeier wrote:

whether this is a core system, TKA, tailor, or BioE issue is another argument. I'll include it in BioE simply because we make the tissues that tailors use to make the clothes that TKA's use... but that doesn't mean that it IS a BioE issue, since BioE can't directly make the product, nor can they directly benefit from the use of that product.

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Sure we benifit from the product....I've made about 17 mil since the CU crafting tissues for my Tailor friend

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Aleskander wrote:

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lammergeier wrote:

whether this is a core system, TKA, tailor, or BioE issue is another argument. I'll include it in BioE simply because we make the tissues that tailors use to make the clothes that TKA's use... but that doesn't mean that it IS a BioE issue, since BioE can't directly make the product, nor can they directly benefit from the use of that product.

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Sure we benifit from the product....I've made about 17 mil since the CU crafting tissues for my Tailor friend

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/checks bank balance

/grumbles

hehe. you win.

Ok, upon further testing,

first a lvl 61 character, Master Pike, Master Brawler, Master Scout, (so just the four basic brawler boxes and a +15 from masterbrawler for unarmed damage), fighting a lvl 72 Bol on Naboo. Without any tissues 109 damage, with +6, +8, and +14s still 109 damage

Second a Mastewr TKA, lvl 80 character fighting same creature, a lvl 72 Bol on Naboo, without tissue hiting for 416, with +6, +8 and +14 tissues still hitting for 416 (interestingly more than he was hitting me for, a lvl 15 char [see first post] so there does appear to be capps on PvP)

Both characters were hitting unarmed, without any wepons, so they appear to be broken. Can anyone else confirm this, am I still doing somting wrong?

Beswa.