Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: Clarification on pets specials please.
QuantumArtist wrote:
theorb22 wrote:
Afraid not, even if pets did have working specials (Which none do) BE's not only couldn't sample that special before the CU, but as far as I know the only critters who have it are all above a BE's max sampling limit of 75, the only things I can think of with area attacks are krayts and Malkloc plainswalkers, which are both over 80.
You're right in that we cant presently do that. However, there were animals that gave you area effect attacks for BE pets! My favorites were AOE disease from Screaming Mantigrues and a few others which I will keep my own personal trade secrets for now...The day they allow us to go back to special attacks, many mantigues will die from my DNA extraction chemicals!
The above was posted in the CH forum as an answer to a new CH asking about AoE specials.
Now, I have always been under the understanding , as a CH and a BE, plague strike and other AoE can never be active on a clone.
Could someone please clarify ?
valetman wrote:
QuantumArtist wrote:
theorb22 wrote:
Afraid not, even if pets did have working specials (Which none do) BE's not only couldn't sample that special before the CU, but as far as I know the only critters who have it are all above a BE's max sampling limit of 75, the only things I can think of with area attacks are krayts and Malkloc plainswalkers, which are both over 80.
You're right in that we cant presently do that. However, there were animals that gave you area effect attacks for BE pets! My favorites were AOE disease from Screaming Mantigrues and a few others which I will keep my own personal trade secrets for now...
The day they allow us to go back to special attacks, many mantigues will die from my DNA extraction chemicals!
The above was posted in the CH forum as an answer to a new CH asking about AoE specials.
Now, I have always been under the understanding , as a CH and a BE, plague strike and other AoE can never be active on a clone.
Could someone please clarify ?
Well for clarification, I never said they're currently active. No specials work at present on pets. No DNA samples even display primary or secondary attacks for us to make a clone with one.
In the past... you bet! If you read my statement carefully, I WAS talking in the PAST tense.
Message Edited by QuantumArtist on 07-04-2005 06:41 AM
valetman wrote:
QuantumArtist wrote:
theorb22 wrote:
Afraid not, even if pets did have working specials (Which none do) BE's not only couldn't sample that special before the CU, but as far as I know the only critters who have it are all above a BE's max sampling limit of 75, the only things I can think of with area attacks are krayts and Malkloc plainswalkers, which are both over 80.
You're right in that we cant presently do that. However, there were animals that gave you area effect attacks for BE pets! My favorites were AOE disease from Screaming Mantigrues and a few others which I will keep my own personal trade secrets for now...
The day they allow us to go back to special attacks, many mantigues will die from my DNA extraction chemicals!
The above was posted in the CH forum as an answer to a new CH asking about AoE specials.
Now, I have always been under the understanding , as a CH and a BE, plague strike and other AoE can never be active on a clone.
Could someone please clarify ?
Kaomond wrote:
valetman wrote:
QuantumArtist wrote:
theorb22 wrote:
Afraid not, even if pets did have working specials (Which none do) BE's not only couldn't sample that special before the CU, but as far as I know the only critters who have it are all above a BE's max sampling limit of 75, the only things I can think of with area attacks are krayts and Malkloc plainswalkers, which are both over 80.
You're right in that we cant presently do that. However, there were animals that gave you area effect attacks for BE pets! My favorites were AOE disease from Screaming Mantigrues and a few others which I will keep my own personal trade secrets for now...The day they allow us to go back to special attacks, many mantigues will die from my DNA extraction chemicals!
The above was posted in the CH forum as an answer to a new CH asking about AoE specials.
Now, I have always been under the understanding , as a CH and a BE, plague strike and other AoE can never be active on a clone.
Could someone please clarify ?
No specials do not work at al any more, we cannot create creatures with specials anymoreYes at one point we were able to create creatures with aoe specials, BUT, this did not last long as with one of the CH nerfs they removed AOE from pets fullstop so any pets with AOE we made didn't work anyway.
Could you explain how you got the AoE attacks to stick?
Ive never been able to myself (pre CU of course), nor have I ever seen any pets apart from wild tames that had plague strike or similar.
Where was I going wrong?
actually I have a alt be and from past experience stuff like plague strike and unknown attacks never stuck no matter what most I was able to get out of a pet was strong disease and strong poison as attacks 1 and 2 for single targets worked in be pets thats what made the wild ones so desirable (IE bull ranc and mantrigrue screecher)
It was pretty much accepted on this forum up to, say the CU time, that these specials didnt come through to the template.
Message Edited by QuantumArtist on 07-05-2005 05:54 AM
QuantumArtist wrote:
I used looping macros to get mine to work. For its potential to really jack up the game... I'll spare the details. I'll simply say the information is out there for those that know where to look... but please dont tryits better that way.
Message Edited by QuantumArtist on 07-05-2005 05:54 AM
So you exploited to get them?
I see now.
Well, Im glad I never have seen pets with those specials then.
Oh, and before you say it isnt an exploit, you had to use a specific macro else it didnt happen, as you say, and you refuse to tell how.
If its not an exploit, post up how you did it, pet specials arnt coming back in a way that BE can give them anyway, so it can never be repeated.
Id like to see a screenie of a BE made pet with plague strike too, never have I yet seen such a pet.
Noggin-The-Nogg wrote:
Kaomond wrote:
valetman wrote:
QuantumArtist wrote:
theorb22 wrote:
Afraid not, even if pets did have working specials (Which none do) BE's not only couldn't sample that special before the CU, but as far as I know the only critters who have it are all above a BE's max sampling limit of 75, the only things I can think of with area attacks are krayts and Malkloc plainswalkers, which are both over 80.
You're right in that we cant presently do that. However, there were animals that gave you area effect attacks for BE pets! My favorites were AOE disease from Screaming Mantigrues and a few others which I will keep my own personal trade secrets for now...
The day they allow us to go back to special attacks, many mantigues will die from my DNA extraction chemicals!
The above was posted in the CH forum as an answer to a new CH asking about AoE specials.
Now, I have always been under the understanding , as a CH and a BE, plague strike and other AoE can never be active on a clone.
Could someone please clarify ?
No specials do not work at al any more, we cannot create creatures with specials anymore
Yes at one point we were able to create creatures with aoe specials, BUT, this did not last long as with one of the CH nerfs they removed AOE from pets fullstop so any pets with AOE we made didn't work anyway.
Could you explain how you got the AoE attacks to stick?
Ive never been able to myself (pre CU of course), nor have I ever seen any pets apart from wild tames that had plague strike or similar.
Where was I going wrong?
I never said i had done it, but i know people who have by using an exploit (maybei should have said this in the original post)
valetman wrote:
QuantumArtist wrote:
I used looping macros to get mine to work. For its potential to really jack up the game... I'll spare the details. I'll simply say the information is out there for those that know where to look... but please dont tryits better that way.
Message Edited by QuantumArtist on 07-05-2005 05:54 AM
So you exploited to get them?
I see now.
Well, Im glad I never have seen pets with those specials then.
Oh, and before you say it isnt an exploit, you had to use a specific macro else it didnt happen, as you say, and you refuse to tell how.
If its not an exploit, post up how you did it, pet specials arnt coming back in a way that BE can give them anyway, so it can never be repeated.
Id like to see a screenie of a BE made pet with plague strike too, never have I yet seen such a pet.
It was an in game macro I devised long ago, so I found it easy to justify its usage. There were many more reasons to use the macro then to get them to use difficult AOE attacks. Though I feel the attacks themselves were not exploiting, the results from the macro were without question an exploit.Lets just say those days are behind me and the Devs are fully aware of the method I used. I wouldnt be surprised if thats why we dont have special attacks at the moment.