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Thread: NancyJ: Any news on them doing something about the Domesticated Meat requirement?

Seiryuu
Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:22 pm
#1

Savage humbabas are also available from missions and give a larger take than humbabas. Both can be milked.

My problem with them isn't so much that they are required, but that a heavy caloric will take over four times the meat an INN will, and no chef is going to consider it worth paying what it costs in comparison to a nutrient.



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NancyJ
Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:23 pm
#2

IIRC this didnt even make it on to the top 5 issues list - which hasnt been addressed yet so my advice is dont hold your breath




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CapricornONE
Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:50 pm
#3






RancorPoker wrote:
Mawgax drop domesticated meat. Now, I've never seen a great spawn of it.





yup... I can get the meat, I can make the stuff, but no chef wants to pay for em.. so I don't even bother anymore.


BTW, what does IIRC mean? thats been keeping me up at night trying to figure that one out..



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zyxxyz
Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:56 pm
#4

IIRC = If I recall correctly



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Kevm
Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:56 pm
#5

IIRC - If I Remember Correctly



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CapricornONE
Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:06 pm
#6






Kevm wrote:

IIRC - If I Remember Correctly







bah, it was so easy... I'm not very good with acronyms, lol


Thanks




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PurpleWarrior
Mon Aug 02, 2004 3:42 pm
#7






NancyJ wrote:
IIRC this didnt even make it on to the top 5 issues list - which hasnt been addressed yet so my advice is dont hold your breath






Oh poopiness...


I agree with other comments on this - and always have - that our additives seem to be a little badly put together. We need rare resources for the ones that don't sem to be as 'useful' as the one that's easily made.


I now have people asking me to make MSTs on Chimaera and getting the milk is a total pain. They only want it for ONE food (Parwan Nutricake) and I can't even get enough milk for a half run (15K) offering up to 25cpu for it!


Milking is just not 'popular', neither is hunting domesticated meat (even Humbaba missions). We just can't get this stuff at affordable prices. Yes, I could offer 50cpu for milk, but then the MST additive would be costing me 1500cr + the flora cost to make. I'd have to sell it at over 2,500 per additive to make it worth manufacturing. That would come out at 62.5K per crate. I can really see chefs wanting to pay that


Similar problems exist getting Domesticated Meat. The Market will not bear us paying 50cpu for good domesticated meat, but the hunters won't work for less because there's ALWAYS a Doctor or Chef paying 45cpu for something reasonably mediocre that drops in good quantities. (At least on Chimaera that's true)


Even guilds won't help - after all, they're not running a charity - the members need to make money like everyone else.


They need to somehow increase the availability of our 'tricky' resources (Domesticated, Fish, Milk) or give us something more acquirable in the schematics - in my opinion.


If anyone thinks the schematics/supply is fine the way it stands, feel free to say so.





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ArthurDentOnBria
Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:08 pm
#8

Objectively, since none of us are actually making these products, it's most certainly not fine, that is not even arguable. The bottom line is that they were very poorly thought out and the time spent making them was wasted. But I guess like NancyJ said, it's a matter of priorities. If given a choice between seeing the ingredients of those chaloric what-sha-ma-call-its changed from domestic meat to insect meat just so that I can then be bitched at by some l33t chefdemanding a free schematic for it, or given some new schematic for some new cool tailor tissue (+ knockdown protection?), or given a new schematic for some new cool faction pet, or having the damn non-CH thing resolved once and for all, then yea, the chef thingy comes dead last in my book. DEAD last in fact.





PurpleWarrior wrote:

If anyone thinks the schematics/supply is fine the way it stands, feel free to say so.








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Bracci
Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:16 pm
#9






NancyJ wrote:
IIRC this didnt even make it on to the top 5 issues list - which hasnt been addressed yet so my advice is dont hold your breath





What exactly *is* our top 5 issues list? I don't remember getting the memo...
PurpleWarrior
Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:05 am
#10

I know - this keeps coming up every couple of months, but we had a Chef wanting to experiment with Calorics again and yet again had to tell him "Domesticated meat = no no".


Zad even suggested that if the guy find a good spawn of it and let us know..? *chuckles*


Has anyone ever considered what they'd have to do if these filling reducers turned out to be really useful and we needed 30K of it for a full run? (That's just the Mediums - the Heavy uses 40K)


They changed the stupid requirements on their new Wookiee armour in a matter of hours on TC, why can't they just change this Domesticated Meat to something we can actually get? I'd settle for Insect (they don't eat much *g*) or something similar, but Domesticated is impossible to get.


I once spent almost 5 hours hunting for Domesticated Eopies and only managed about 700 of the stuff.


Pretty please NancyJ - poke them with the "change it" stick?



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RancorPoker
Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:13 am
#11

Mawgax drop domesticated meat. Now, I've never seen a great spawn of it.



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ArthurDentOnBria
Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:40 am
#12






PurpleWarrior wrote:

I once spent almost 5 hours hunting for Domesticated Eopies and only managed about 700 of the stuff.




Domesticated is the hardest to get, but it's not quite that bad. What I wish though was that they recognized the effort/value ratio and actually had the hard to get stuff going into thing which were of great value, rather than the opposite.


Actually, I was out hunting humbabas on Corellia the other day. They are "mission-able" even solo, and I'm able to get probably 400 meat per lair, so it's not really that bad. The bad thing though is that there is so little demand for dom meat that it really doesn't justify the effort (from the hunters perspective).

Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 08-02-2004 12:42 PM



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NancyJ
Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:16 am
#13



Talthazar wrote:
Ok, based on the latest Top 5 Poll, here are the issues you guys are most concerned about.

1) Valid Pets
2) DNA Storage
3) Critical Fails on Cloning
4) CL visible during the Template process
5) Skill tapes for BE's





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