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I got a big bunch of DNA and made a whole bunch of clones, then sampled, occasionally throwing in new DNA, trying to get a pet with armor and no vulns...I took it to the 5th generation, at which point 3/12 clones had armor and the resists were mostly in the low 30's...still around CL 29 though, which means they really aren't worth selling anymore...should I have stopped at the 3rd gen? I'm new to this, furthest I've gone is 2 generations before, this time I set out to go further. The resists keep dropping, and it seems the sample quality is going down too, very rarely do I get a very high quality sample anymore...

No, you should get those resists up as close to 60% as possible, higher if you can go higher on non kinetic resists, and sell em for big bucks to CH's. Assuming you can keep them at CL35 or less.

Saddly because resistances aren't taken into consideration with the clone CL calculations it is very possible to end up with resistances that are too low for their CL. It seems that while the flaw allows for super powered pets it can also work against you too. I've found that typically you shouldn't bother going past 4th gen if your finding your not getting anywhere, not unless your inbreeding the clone with itself or similar dna.

Well, I was aiming for armor and no vuln, I did get that, just lower resists than I would like, and no way to raise them without losing something to an introduced vuln...maybe I'll try to get them to 23 and keep the resists the same, that would be good...

I've taken generation cloning a bit too far in the past. I was trying to lower the CL,but ended up with a 7k Health, 100 Action, 3k mind pet. I had to put the poor thing out of its misery.

Can someone please explain to me how this generation stuff works? I can't seem to make anything good from a clone that I sample dna from. I don't know how to create certain stats. I read alot of these forums and get lost easily. I am a new BE. I love the class and have said forget Jedi, this is just to much fun. I want to get more complex in the matter but I don't know what I'm doing really. Can someone give me some layman's terms? I would greatly appreciate the help!

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JayTee001 wrote:

Can someone please explain to me how this generation stuff works? I can't seem to make anything good from a clone that I sample dna from. I don't know how to create certain stats. I read alot of these forums and get lost easily. I am a new BE. I love the class and have said forget Jedi, this is just to much fun. I want to get more complex in the matter but I don't know what I'm doing really. Can someone give me some layman's terms? I would greatly appreciate the help!

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I'm probably not the best person to explain this, but i'll give it a shot. Make a bunch of clones with say high kinetic, and sample from them. Depending on what you're trying to do, you can bring in new DNA with for example high energy resistto mix with the clone DNA. I was trying to get pets with no vulnerabilities, so I would find something with only 2 vulns, make a good clone or two or 7, and then mix the DNA from the cloneswith wild that had high resists in the area that my clone was vulnerable in. After 3 generations, I ended up with clones that had no vulnerabilities, but some of the resists were only 3% or 7%. The template will tend to average the resists in the slots, with higher weight given to slots 1, 2, and 5 apparently, so I make sure those slots have the highest resists and armor. It's still a lot of trial and error, and about half the clones I get I don't resample from. I still have no clue on specials, for some reason I tend to end up with the same specials for 1 and 2 lol. Hope this helps, and if anyone can contribute something that I'm missing please do! Tal-N? Help?

I think I am starting to get the picture. It's still really blurry though.

So, I sample my butt off, create a lot of clones, (skins don't matter right?) and sample only the ones with high kinetic resists right? Then, from a dna sample not from a clone and that sample has high energy, I use the clones dna, mix it with the original dna to try and get high kinetic and high energy on the same clone! or do I use only cloned samples of dna for this?

BTW, I want to thank you for posting a reply to me. I'm sure your a busy person and I want to let you know I appreciate your kindness.

Jay'Tee

You can do both. You'll want to start with clones from DNAthat hasas many of the qualities you want as possible(skin doesn't seem to matter) or you'll go crazy hehe.It's going to depend on what you start with and what you're looking for. Say I have a clone line that's got good kinetic and energy(which is what I started with) but they're vulnerable to electricity...I find something with high electricity resists(rancors), and put 2 or 3 pieces in my next template, along with my high kinetic/energy clone DNA. Usually I'll do it both ways, one with 3 clone DNA and 2 wild, and one with 2 clone DNA and 3 wild, just to see which comes out closer to what I want. It's a trading game, usually the kinetic and energy resists will be lowered, but the electricity vuln will eventually go away. Vulns act lke a negative resist, so you can breed them out eventually, in theory hehe. Ask away, sometimes when you're explaining something to someone else it makes it clearer to you, well, specials are still a complete mystery to me...I have something to try tomorrow hehe...

A very useful thing to do is to make an intermediate creature to milk for stats when you can't find exactly what you want. For instance, there are almost no fortitude 400-500 creatures in the wild, they seem to jump from about 320- 507 with nothing in between. This can screw with your efforts to make a high kinetic, high resist creature, especially if you want to get specific specials in. What you can do, is take a bull or mutant rancor, add a couple of kin 60+, high-hardniess-but-no-armor-creatures to prowess and physical, and switch out the specials, especially special slot 1 which sucks for many of the top level creatures. When you sample this creature, you should get high hardiness, fort 450-500 dna, which you can then use to make the clone you really wanted, because fortitude 450 is easy to bump up to 500 with just one 600 fortitude native sample in slots 1, 2 or 5.

Being a chemist, I call them transition states

I'm kind of supper confused now lol..not by your post, but by something that happened tonight while playing. I had a good time on Dath and was getting some pretty good dna, no rancors only the youths and such creatures about. I screwed this one template all up with my experimentations. This template had crappy resists, crappy fort, hardiness, etc...I mean, everything was below 150. yeah I know, thats LOW, but that creature had the highest resists, the most HAM, and highest LVL of any creature I've ever cloned. What happened here. Did a bugg step into my cryogenic chamber as I was taking a bite of my sub? Or is there a more serious explanation to this mystery? Has this happened to you?

Lots of strange things are happening at the moment. I created some CL 19 armored creature, then took some DNA from it to mix with chuba DNA. I had some amazing successes (not literally, but generally) and the result came out to some 8k HAM CL 5 cat with decent resist. I dunno what happened there, but I'm not selling the cat to anyone.