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Thread: Help me and my BE.

EvilNerf
Mon Mar 01, 2004 8:02 am
#1

I'm an MCH who contracted a master BE to make me a cl 60-70 rancor. I've been waiting 3 days while by BE tries out different DNA combinations to make me one, but they are always seem too high or the stats are too poor.


Maybe im not thinking realisticly, is this possible?

11-13k ham

550+ attack

60 or better resists for Kinetic and Energy.

maybe Dizzy, and Knockdown specials, but these arent too important.


Is this possible? if so, what kind of DNA combo would work best for this guy?





Boban Knot: The Smelly Rodian.
SDNewton
Mon Mar 01, 2004 8:56 am
#2

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=bio-engineer&message.id=59636


Know thats not exactly what you are looking for , but read my response as well.





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Kailasa
Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:01 am
#3


Hi,


The max on kinetic and energy are 60%. While it is theoretically possible to get 60% on both resists, it is very hard to do. However, from what you listed, your request seems reasonable. Realize though that getting the pet you want may take a few weeks. 3 days isn't a very long time at all. Factoring in critical failures, time to get the proper dna and experiment to get exactly the resists and specials and damage that you want, is a time consuming process.


As for what dna he will need there's a few different types he can play around with.I am thinking hewill probably need Bark Mite Burrower or Bark Mite Burrower queen as some of the dna though. This is because of the high resists. If he uses mutant rancor he will get high damage but the kinetic and energy won't be high enough to pull through, unless he is willing to experiment and use some generational clones to raise them high enough.

Message Edited by Kailasa on 03-01-2004 08:13 AM



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EvilNerf
Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:05 am
#4

ah, thanks for the info. I knew it might be a while but luckily my BE seems very commited to the project. Again, if anyone has any good combinations....



Boban Knot: The Smelly Rodian.
ArthurDentOnBria
Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:24 am
#5




EvilNerf,


What happens is that the higher the CL, the less options the BE has in terms of what creatures can be sampled, and what sorts of properties that critter can have. At CL 20 we can sample from dozens of creatures to achieve 50% kinetic resists, and good HAM and damage for example, and give you pretty much any 2 specials you can think of. At CL 35 if you want armor and 60% kinetic we're down to a handful, and at CL 60+ now you're down to 1 or 2.


A BE can come pretty close to what you're asking, but it sure aint easy. There is a critter called Bark Mite Burrower Queen that has these stats (according to www.swgcreatures.com):


light armor, 60% kinetic, 50% energy, 12k HAM, damage 440-590, stunning strike/strong disease


So if a BE takes 5 samples of that and experiments it way up, he/she should be able to approach, or perhaps in some cases improve on, those statistics (resists and specials don't change however).


The trouble is, finding those is no picnic. I had or order for such a creature last week. At the time, I was fortunate enough to have 6 dna samples of BMBQ. I put that in my crafting station: experiment: fail, experiment: fail, experiment: fail, combine: crit fail. So much for my BMBQ samples. So I spent 2 nights doing almost nothing but cruising around the smuggler's outpost on Endor. Not a BMBQ in sight. I eventually felt really bad, and cancelled the order with the customer, just simply telling him that I am not able to guarantee a delivery time for such a pet but that I will be on the lookout for it.


I'd imagine that the BE you are working with is having similar issues. You might casually mention the BMBQ to him (or maybe he even has some better ideas, dunno), but be a little cautious here. BE's don't exactly like to be told how to make pets, just like I'd never presume to tell the armorsmith making my armor how to make that. The last time somone told me to "go out and sample X and make it into a pet" for him he was on "ignore" a moment later.

Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 03-01-2004 10:37 AM



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EvilNerf
Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:53 pm
#6

Yes, i see. I know BEing isnt easy. So far, he's been fooling around with Rancor DNA. Ill suggest about the Bark Mite Burrower Queen. Thanks.



Boban Knot: The Smelly Rodian.
ArthurDentOnBria
Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:11 pm
#7






SDNewton wrote:

Reclusive cavern spider queen .


Anyway, arthur, wow thats really bad luck ! I find it hard to go sampling again just when loosing a BMB , harvester assemble loosing 5 BMB queen dna's is just like **edit**!




Tell me about it. Of course by the time I had gotten to the combine I didn't really care whether I crit failed or not (but I somehow knew it was coming, lol). All those experimental failures had ruined the critter to the point where it was not sellable anyway. But yea, I was very very pissed, as well as being embarasses that I was now suddenly unable to deliver on what would have been a godly pet. I tried using some regular BMB dna together with my 1 remaining BMBQ queen sample, and mixed in some various Rancor dna samples, but the result was certainly not what the customer was looking for. It resulted in something like 40% kinetic 45% energy with good HAM and damage. Still a good pet, sold the first day it hit my vendor, but I still felt really bad about it and looked at it as a complete failure on my part




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Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
custom tailoring and droid orders welcome. "making Evil products since July 2003"
Achiever: 80%, Explorer: 60%, Socializer: 46%, Killa 13%


Centurion
Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:12 am
#8

If you have the time you might also help him search for those elusive BMB and their queens. I was on Endor for a 6 days last week and saw lots of the lower level bark mites but never did find a burrower lair.



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SDNewton
Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:54 am
#9

Reclusive cavern spider queen .

Is what you need, but imposibal to get 5 samples, you would most likely need to combine it with the BMB queen dna to lower CL anyway..

http://www.swgcreatures.com/detail.asp?creatureID=708



But as mentioned, both this spider and the BMB queen is very hard to find. Alot "easier" to get rancor.


Anyway, arthur, wow thats really bad luck ! I find it hard to go sampling again just when loosing a BMB , harvester assemble loosing 5 BMB queen dna's is just like **edit**!



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