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Thread: Why is it so hard to get DNA samples ??

Ackew
Fri Mar 05, 2004 9:21 am
#1

I'm a novice BE and i'm finding it REALLY hard to get dna samples even on a night spider it takes 7/8 attemps and thats for 101xp. Someone told me to try pickets and they take about 15 attemps and 2 or 3 pickets as they aggro me after about 5 fails or so. Hashow you dna samplebeen changed as i was talking to a former master BE and he said he had no such trouble even at novice.



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ValourianAudusen
Fri Mar 05, 2004 9:57 am
#2

At novice with 0 in DNA, you will fail. That is the plain and simple fact. You are a n00b to the profession, so expect the difficulties associated with such. I got to level 1 by sampling rills and such outside of bestine, and I failed probably 50% of the time. I would suggest bringing some brandy along to help with the downtime. You will find things go are easier and go a lot faster when you don't have to rest every 3-4 (failed) samples.



Valourian Audusen
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KBFarmer
Fri Mar 05, 2004 9:59 am
#3

Yes BE samplin changed when the dna changes came into effect. To stop noobs from making cl 70 pets they added some type of check on the sampling success based on your dna gathering level. So as a novice it will be very hard to sample the tuffer creatures, you are wasting your time. Also make sure your inventory is not full. If it is you will get a fail every time. DNA xp is very easy to get once you get it down.



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Spazzers
Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:05 am
#4

Get a mind buff, either from a master entertainer or from food items. Sample yard trash like minor worrts. Getting samples as a low level BE is insane now since the clone changed took place.



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obeewan
Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:29 pm
#5

There is a cap to what you can sample it seems.


For DNA 1 sample all the newbie stuff


DNA 2 level 20-25


Dna 3 and 4 Pickets, sharnaffs, etc. No death blows. (sharnaff bulls=448 exp)


At DNA IV you can sample on Endor and such, takes me sometimes 3 attempts on a level 58 and I am unable to sample a level 60 after 17 attempts.





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sfsoldier
Sun Mar 07, 2004 1:28 am
#6

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meroc
Sun Mar 07, 2004 5:08 am
#7

This might help:



  • NBE - DNA Harvesting +15 -CL20

  • DNA 1 - DNA Harvesting +30 - up to CL30

  • DNA 2 - DNA Harvesting +45 - up to CL40

  • DNA 3 - DNA Harvesting +60 - up to CL50

  • DNA 4 - DNA Harvesting +75 - up to CL60(65??)

  • MBE - DNA Harvesting +100 - up to CL75

Use that table and http://www.swgcreatures.com and you should be able to work out the highest thing you can sample per "level".





Meroc

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fantoq
Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:20 am
#8

My rule has been, within reason, if it moves sample it. I've been able to go through sampling 3 and 1/2 way through 4 pretty quickly.


I use a macro....dismount.......dnasample.....mount (bike). If I fail 3 times, I either move on to another critter in same lair or just try another lair.


In truth, I never spent much time on yard trash. The failure rate seemed about the same and you only get about 1/3 the XP.


And as said, carry brandy and maskscent for all.



fantoq
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GreenStok
Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:26 am
#9

I just started a new BE.. so I am very familiar with both systems... here are my thoughts...


I was sampling kaduus and Gualamas.. CL 12 to 18 and got maybe 130 exp.. if I get aggro, much time is lost. In the newbe zone I can get 100 xp non stop... if a chubba aggros me, one shot dead. I use 2 shots of brandy and 2shots of food that does the same on action regen.. forget the name. I can sample back to back and not quit. I make a non experiment genetic record while continuing to sample to keep inventory down... when the inventory is full of CL 5 kaadus, I tame all them and teach them tricks for creature handling. The new BE is like 0-1-2-2 now... CH is -0-0-0-1.


Is it fast? Nooo.. it sucks. But I do not believe there is a faster overall way





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Ackew
Sun Mar 07, 2004 9:21 am
#10

Thanks for the info meroc but I finaly got to dna 1 and it still makeing no difference. I'm still failing 90% of the time on trash and close to 95% on naffs. Oh well back to grinding, maybe it will be better today i hope



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fantoq
Sun Mar 07, 2004 9:27 am
#11






Ackew wrote:
Thanks for the info meroc but I finaly got to dna 1 and it still makeing no difference. I'm still failing 90% of the time on trash and close to 95% on naffs. Oh well back to grinding, maybe it will be better today i hope






Wow, that's awful. I think I'd have quit BE if I ran into that. Are you masking scent? I also seem to have better results from the 10-13M range, butI can't say that as an absolute fact. And I always start with a 'clean' mind as well, making a trip to the cantina first.



fantoq
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