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Thread: The noob thinks she discovered a recipe:p

spacedoggys
Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:23 pm
#1


So yeah, i expect alot of "Uh huh" and "Duh..noob" and so on, but thats all ok Basically, im a new BE Used to be a CH from around launch up to CU, but thats all uninteressting side-facts for now anyways..be talk time


Well, see ive been out experimenting..And i read some guides and recipes..amongst one a few Lvl 10 guides. So basically i reckoned 2,8k health to be a perfect lvl 10

Well, right now, i sort of kind of made a kusak with 3,3 k health Im sure this is were you all can insert your "Duh"'sand "noob's" I stuffed alot of things into the cooker. started with a nice narglatch hunter sample..then a narglatch cub.. then some flesheating chubas, some just chuba and ikopi (on the mental i think) .

Anyways , yeah. that was fun

Message Edited by spacedoggys on 09-20-2005 05:11 AM



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Kaomond
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:39 pm
#2






spacedoggys wrote:


So yeah, i expect alot of "Uh huh" and "Duh..noob" and so on, but thats all ok Basically, im a new BE Used to be a CH from around launch up to CU, but thats all uninteressting side-facts for now anyways..be talk time


Well, see ive been out experimenting..And i read some guides and recipes..amongst one a few Lvl 10 guides. So basically i reckoned 2,8k health to be a perfect lvl 10

Well, right now, i sort of kind of made a kusak with 3,3 k health Im sure this is were you all can insert your "Duh"'sand "noob's" I stuffed alot of things into the cooker. started with a nice narglatch hunter sample..then a narglatch cub.. then some flesheating chubas, some just chuba and ikopi (on the mental i think) .

Anyways , yeah. that was fun

Message Edited by spacedoggys on 09-20-2005 05:11 AM



cool, nie to see new BE's experimenting, i generall;y use 5 above average Mouf DnA (kasshykk, kowirr forest) whith no experimentation for a 2.2k health pet with 185 max damage.





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Chimaera / Bloodfin


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ther34p
Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:48 am
#3






Kaomond wrote:





spacedoggys wrote:


So yeah, i expect alot of "Uh huh" and "Duh..noob" and so on, but thats all ok Basically, im a new BE Used to be a CH from around launch up to CU, but thats all uninteressting side-facts for now anyways..be talk time


Well, see ive been out experimenting..And i read some guides and recipes..amongst one a few Lvl 10 guides. So basically i reckoned 2,8k health to be a perfect lvl 10

Well, right now, i sort of kind of made a kusak with 3,3 k health Im sure this is were you all can insert your "Duh"'sand "noob's" I stuffed alot of things into the cooker. started with a nice narglatch hunter sample..then a narglatch cub.. then some flesheating chubas, some just chuba and ikopi (on the mental i think) .

Anyways , yeah. that was fun

Message Edited by spacedoggys on 09-20-2005 05:11 AM



cool, nie to see new BE's experimenting, i generall;y use 5 above average Mouf DnA (kasshykk, kowirr forest) whith no experimentation for a 2.2k health pet with 185 max damage.






When a CH uses a pet to attack, dont they (the pets) use their own CL as calculations from combat? Effectively meaning that if you have a lvl 10 per doing 45-185 dmg, against a CL80 its always going to hit for 45?



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Kaomond
Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:04 am
#4






ther34p wrote:





Kaomond wrote:





spacedoggys wrote:


So yeah, i expect alot of "Uh huh" and "Duh..noob" and so on, but thats all ok Basically, im a new BE Used to be a CH from around launch up to CU, but thats all uninteressting side-facts for now anyways..be talk time


Well, see ive been out experimenting..And i read some guides and recipes..amongst one a few Lvl 10 guides. So basically i reckoned 2,8k health to be a perfect lvl 10

Well, right now, i sort of kind of made a kusak with 3,3 k health Im sure this is were you all can insert your "Duh"'sand "noob's" I stuffed alot of things into the cooker. started with a nice narglatch hunter sample..then a narglatch cub.. then some flesheating chubas, some just chuba and ikopi (on the mental i think) .

Anyways , yeah. that was fun

Message Edited by spacedoggys on 09-20-2005 05:11 AM



cool, nie to see new BE's experimenting, i generall;y use 5 above average Mouf DnA (kasshykk, kowirr forest) whith no experimentation for a 2.2k health pet with 185 max damage.






When a CH uses a pet to attack, dont they (the pets) use their own CL as calculations from combat? Effectively meaning that if you have a lvl 10 per doing 45-185 dmg, against a CL80 its always going to hit for 45?






Probably, but that is imaterial, if you're going to use such a low level creature as a level 10 all you're using it for is as a damage add or as a way to take extra aggro off of you to run away, you're not looking for it to do any real damage and if you are you're not looking in the right place. Post CU non-ch pets are pretty useless for anything but that, and aren't much more than a novelty.




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Chimaera / Bloodfin


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'
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spacedoggys
Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:14 am
#5






Kaomond wrote:





spacedoggys wrote:


So yeah, i expect alot of "Uh huh" and "Duh..noob" and so on, but thats all ok Basically, im a new BE Used to be a CH from around launch up to CU, but thats all uninteressting side-facts for now anyways..be talk time


Well, see ive been out experimenting..And i read some guides and recipes..amongst one a few Lvl 10 guides. So basically i reckoned 2,8k health to be a perfect lvl 10

Well, right now, i sort of kind of made a kusak with 3,3 k health Im sure this is were you all can insert your "Duh"'sand "noob's" I stuffed alot of things into the cooker. started with a nice narglatch hunter sample..then a narglatch cub.. then some flesheating chubas, some just chuba and ikopi (on the mental i think) .

Anyways , yeah. that was fun

Message Edited by spacedoggys on 09-20-2005 05:11 AM



cool, nie to see new BE's experimenting, i generall;y use 5 above average Mouf DnA (kasshykk, kowirr forest) whith no experimentation for a 2.2k health pet with 185 max damage.






thanks

meh, id love me some kashyyk samples..but no rotw on the BE account yet

Its on my wishlist tho, i read that the samples there were yummy



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Cindal
Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:33 am
#6

I be curious to know if a non-CH was able to use the Kusak. Pre-CU these were aggro skins and a non-CH was not able to use even if the CL was 10 or lower.


We've had reports that non-CH are able to use a CL10 Woolamander (another aggro) and I've even seen a claim that a player had a CL10 Wild Woolamander. LOL, I've searched and searched but have not been able to find a Wild Wooly at CL10 or any that are tamable for that matter.


Lamm, I'd hate to even have you ask if this is working as intended because if this was true it would add to the skins we can make for non-CH (not a great amount I'll grant you as the min CL on most are too high).





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Katharian
Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:27 am
#7






Kaomond wrote:





ther34p wrote:





When a CH uses a pet to attack, dont they (the pets) use their own CL as calculations from combat? Effectively meaning that if you have a lvl 10 per doing 45-185 dmg, against a CL80 its always going to hit for 45?







Probably, but that is imaterial, if you're going to use such a low level creature as a level 10 all you're using it for is as a damage add or as a way to take extra aggro off of you to run away, you're not looking for it to do any real damage and if you are you're not looking in the right place. Post CU non-ch pets are pretty useless for anything but that, and aren't much more than a novelty.





Actualy Kao when you group with a pet It assumes your level for to hit and such. This increases the damage a bit or at least how much can get thru as its more likely to hit a cl 50 than if it were not grouped with you. If your not grouped with the pet it uses it own CL for all to hit and damage meaing much lower chance to hit,and always min damage, offten not even getting thru armor .







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TireeG2
Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:53 am
#8






Kaomond wrote:





ther34p wrote:





Kaomond wrote:





spacedoggys wrote:


So yeah, i expect alot of "Uh huh" and "Duh..noob" and so on, but thats all ok Basically, im a new BE Used to be a CH from around launch up to CU, but thats all uninteressting side-facts for now anyways..be talk time


Well, see ive been out experimenting..And i read some guides and recipes..amongst one a few Lvl 10 guides. So basically i reckoned 2,8k health to be a perfect lvl 10

Well, right now, i sort of kind of made a kusak with 3,3 k health Im sure this is were you all can insert your "Duh"'sand "noob's" I stuffed alot of things into the cooker. started with a nice narglatch hunter sample..then a narglatch cub.. then some flesheating chubas, some just chuba and ikopi (on the mental i think) .

Anyways , yeah. that was fun

Message Edited by spacedoggys on 09-20-2005 05:11 AM



cool, nie to see new BE's experimenting, i generall;y use 5 above average Mouf DnA (kasshykk, kowirr forest) whith no experimentation for a 2.2k health pet with 185 max damage.






When a CH uses a pet to attack, dont they (the pets) use their own CL as calculations from combat? Effectively meaning that if you have a lvl 10 per doing 45-185 dmg, against a CL80 its always going to hit for 45?






Probably, but that is imaterial, if you're going to use such a low level creature as a level 10 all you're using it for is as a damage add or as a way to take extra aggro off of you to run away, you're not looking for it to do any real damage and if you are you're not looking in the right place. Post CU non-ch pets are pretty useless for anything but that, and aren't much more than a novelty.






I disagree a little bit with this statement. I make level 10 pets with about 240 max damage and use them all the time. When in combat, against creatures my level, these hit for about 150 damage, and hit about every second. I was able to use one of these pets quite effectively as a lvl 35 as the sole damage dealer to red conning oponents. I would send my pet to attack and spend all of my enrgey healing myself (which kept the agro), this allowed me to take down things a good bit higher than my level. In fact, in normal combat, I had difficulty out DPSing the pet until I hit lvl 40, and that was with a gorax tangle pistol.


Now I know at level 80 it won't look as effective, but an extra ~150dps isn't something to be completely ignored.


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Kaomond
Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:16 am
#9






TireeG2 wrote:






Kaomond wrote:





ther34p wrote:





Kaomond wrote:





spacedoggys wrote:


So yeah, i expect alot of "Uh huh" and "Duh..noob" and so on, but thats all ok Basically, im a new BE Used to be a CH from around launch up to CU, but thats all uninteressting side-facts for now anyways..be talk time


Well, see ive been out experimenting..And i read some guides and recipes..amongst one a few Lvl 10 guides. So basically i reckoned 2,8k health to be a perfect lvl 10

Well, right now, i sort of kind of made a kusak with 3,3 k health Im sure this is were you all can insert your "Duh"'sand "noob's" I stuffed alot of things into the cooker. started with a nice narglatch hunter sample..then a narglatch cub.. then some flesheating chubas, some just chuba and ikopi (on the mental i think) .

Anyways , yeah. that was fun

Message Edited by spacedoggys on 09-20-2005 05:11 AM



cool, nie to see new BE's experimenting, i generall;y use 5 above average Mouf DnA (kasshykk, kowirr forest) whith no experimentation for a 2.2k health pet with 185 max damage.






When a CH uses a pet to attack, dont they (the pets) use their own CL as calculations from combat? Effectively meaning that if you have a lvl 10 per doing 45-185 dmg, against a CL80 its always going to hit for 45?






Probably, but that is imaterial, if you're going to use such a low level creature as a level 10 all you're using it for is as a damage add or as a way to take extra aggro off of you to run away, you're not looking for it to do any real damage and if you are you're not looking in the right place. Post CU non-ch pets are pretty useless for anything but that, and aren't much more than a novelty.






I disagree a little bit with this statement. I make level 10 pets with about 240 max damage and use them all the time. When in combat, against creatures my level, these hit for about 150 damage, and hit about every second. I was able to use one of these pets quite effectively as a lvl 35 as the sole damage dealer to red conning oponents. I would send my pet to attack and spend all of my enrgey healing myself (which kept the agro), this allowed me to take down things a good bit higher than my level. In fact, in normal combat, I had difficulty out DPSing the pet until I hit lvl 40, and that was with a gorax tangle pistol.


Now I know at level 80 it won't look as effective, but an extra ~150dps isn't something to be completely ignored.



Message Edited by TireeG2 on 09-20-2005 10:55 AM





It is when that pet is taking away from your experience, fora non-ch pet you really need it to do as little as possible but still do additional to your damage without taking away too much from your xp, not a big deal when you're cl80 i admit but when youre grinding every point counts, it's a fine line and yes i admit the extra damage is good to help you kill, but does the ability to kill a higher mob outway the fact that the pet was eatring a quarter of your xp because it was doing damage equal to half of the damage you were doing?

I tested this some time ago with a single mastery toon and a lvl 10 pet, (at the time i was around 58) i with a high damage non-ch pet i could take down up to 2 levels above my own which i could not do alone or with the low damage pet, when i ran through the figures it seemed i was actually gaining xp faster doing mobs my own level with a low damage pet than i was doing mobs 1 to 2 levels higher than me with the high damage pet, infact if i remember correctly the actual xp gain was lower per mob.

Granted when i tested this it was very close after the CU so weither it has changed i don't know, i will have to check again sometime.




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Chimaera / Bloodfin


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lammergeier
Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:58 am
#10



Cindal wrote:

I be curious to know if a non-CH was able to use the Kusak. Pre-CU these were aggro skins and a non-CH was not able to use even if the CL was 10 or lower.

We've had reports that non-CH are able to use a CL10 Woolamander (another aggro) and I've even seen a claim that a player had a CL10 Wild Woolamander. LOL, I've searched and searched but have not been able to find a Wild Wooly at CL10 or any that are tamable for that matter.

Lamm, I'd hate to even have you ask if this is working as intended because if this was true it would add to the skins we can make for non-CH (not a great amount I'll grant you as the min CL on most are too high).






I've been hearing spotty reports of nonCH's using aggro skins... but even if the nonCH = nonaggro rules aren't working now, I wouldn't count on them having actually changed (ever had a customer unhappy with a change to their clone before? /sigh). I've got a long list of things I'm waiting for the devs to comment on... I'll make sure this is included, but it'd be helpful to see some more comprehensive tests.

it still doesn't get us any nonCH mounts...



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spacedoggys
Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:38 am
#11






Cindal wrote:

I be curious to know if a non-CH was able to use the Kusak. Pre-CU these were aggro skins and a non-CH was not able to use even if the CL was 10 or lower.


We've had reports that non-CH are able to use a CL10 Woolamander (another aggro) and I've even seen a claim that a player had a CL10 Wild Woolamander. LOL, I've searched and searched but have not been able to find a Wild Wooly at CL10 or any that are tamable for that matter.


Lamm, I'd hate to even have you ask if this is working as intended because if this was true it would add to the skins we can make for non-CH (not a great amount I'll grant you as the min CL on most are too high).








I was curious too so i tamed it , and it works perfectly The other stats are normal/bad lol, 128 mdmg, 95 health regen..38 defence, 38 to hit.. 22% state res..






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Trenkor
Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:10 am
#12

Good luck with future experimentations, nice sig btw
spacedoggys
Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:36 am
#13

Thanks! This is absolutely alot of fun Love BE..breath a new life into the game for this ole vet


and thanks for the compliment of my sig /curtsey





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