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Thread: Tailor Tissue pricing.
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rahbert
Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:14 pm
#1
I charge 100k / crate for Tensile resistance and 75k / crate for the other types.
I get the feeling this is ridiculously cheap though. Last time I bought some BE clothes, I paid about 60k-80k each for a shirt, pants, and spec-ops duster with some mask scent/camo and creature taming mods.
I get the feeling this is ridiculously cheap though. Last time I bought some BE clothes, I paid about 60k-80k each for a shirt, pants, and spec-ops duster with some mask scent/camo and creature taming mods.
schizoF
Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:51 am
#3
Evening Ladies and Gents
Finished off regrinding "little" Dolomaz back to BE and was now going to try supplying some of the starving Tailor´s with some nice BE tissues....the big problem though.....is that I´ve got no check whatsoever on the rescent "common" price settings on BE Tailor Tissues.
Been speaking to some of the BE´s on chim but it seems that most of them don´t make Tailor tissues due to the resources requested. The majority are still living by making pet´s and supplying chefs.
So, I turn myself here to ask for your kind help
For example, Tensile resistance (melee/stun def), how much could I charge? Offcourse I´m not selling them 1 by 1, but one unit is the easiest way to start to count from due to it beeing Tailor tissues.
Well, thanks in advance for any help you can give me
Finished off regrinding "little" Dolomaz back to BE and was now going to try supplying some of the starving Tailor´s with some nice BE tissues....the big problem though.....is that I´ve got no check whatsoever on the rescent "common" price settings on BE Tailor Tissues.
Been speaking to some of the BE´s on chim but it seems that most of them don´t make Tailor tissues due to the resources requested. The majority are still living by making pet´s and supplying chefs.
So, I turn myself here to ask for your kind help
For example, Tensile resistance (melee/stun def), how much could I charge? Offcourse I´m not selling them 1 by 1, but one unit is the easiest way to start to count from due to it beeing Tailor tissues.
Well, thanks in advance for any help you can give me
Magincia
Tue Mar 29, 2005 5:40 am
#4
I charge for all the strong tissues 60k for the crates of 25.. thus 2500 per tissue. Price is server dependant, just like each thing else.
I have never had an issue with ingredients other then Eggs... but that is now changing.
I will say I hardly ever run full runs... except of those with us bone and hide... since those are easier to come by.
bline163
Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:41 am
#5
I'd would price 2500-8500 per tissue. It's how your server economy is. On tarq meat can sell for up to 100cpu easily so you have to figure well what is worst case senario if I bought all the ingredients to make this. Then factor in a profit for your service. Easiest way to price something to be honest.
NorthDK
Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:30 am
#6
i do 2k pr tissue on sunrunner
dunno what every one els does though.
enokei
dunno what every one els does though.
enokei
Zigabob
Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:58 pm
#7
2k per advanced tissue on Valcyn. I get slow but steady sales with this price.
schizoF
Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:35 pm
#8
Many thanks for all replies
I´ve been speaking to some tailors and the replies I´ve got from them have made me sooo confused haha
I don´t know much about the tailor profession, thus I´m sticking my posts here at the BE forum to try and prevent not getting my arse flamed till kingdome come
This is some answers by tailors regarding all from tissues to the final product. It´s late so plz forgive me if I mix things up.
Tailor number Uno.
He sell´s his finished products for 1k per enhanchement.
So time for some math. Let´s say the regular Formfitted undershirt with melee/stun def.
It requires 1 tissue. Let´s say I sell it for 3k/tissue and the stats are 4/16.
Ok, I get my nice 3k and walk to the closes cantina, while he´s selling his final product for the stated 1k/enhachement....damn! He walks away 17k profit?! Still he thought 3k was to much
Tailor number Zwei
He sells the final product for 10-15k, no matter what kind of enhanchement it was. Nor did he care about how many tissues were required. The profit, he told me, wasen´t good but he thought it wasen´t about the profit, it was about the profession (holy damn....does non-profit players excist?!).
Tailor Tre
All BE clothes was started with a 10k mark, same as our unofficial setting for making BE pets with armour. Then he added the pricing for tissues (x tissues multiplied with price per tissue). And finally he added the price index from TKfashion.
Well....all this might seem to be some real mumbo jumbo....it might well be.
But during this short preiod of time I´ve realized it would be almost impossible to start opening a vendor "Free for all" to buy since I´ll prolly get several Tailor with their opinions regarding my prices.
Conclusion. I´ll prolly need to find a business partner and make an stedy agreement on pricing and hopefully I won´t get screwed, or I´ll just have to grind myself a Tailor
I´ve been speaking to some tailors and the replies I´ve got from them have made me sooo confused haha
I don´t know much about the tailor profession, thus I´m sticking my posts here at the BE forum to try and prevent not getting my arse flamed till kingdome come
This is some answers by tailors regarding all from tissues to the final product. It´s late so plz forgive me if I mix things up.
Tailor number Uno.
He sell´s his finished products for 1k per enhanchement.
So time for some math. Let´s say the regular Formfitted undershirt with melee/stun def.
It requires 1 tissue. Let´s say I sell it for 3k/tissue and the stats are 4/16.
Ok, I get my nice 3k and walk to the closes cantina, while he´s selling his final product for the stated 1k/enhachement....damn! He walks away 17k profit?! Still he thought 3k was to much
Tailor number Zwei
He sells the final product for 10-15k, no matter what kind of enhanchement it was. Nor did he care about how many tissues were required. The profit, he told me, wasen´t good but he thought it wasen´t about the profit, it was about the profession (holy damn....does non-profit players excist?!).
Tailor Tre
All BE clothes was started with a 10k mark, same as our unofficial setting for making BE pets with armour. Then he added the pricing for tissues (x tissues multiplied with price per tissue). And finally he added the price index from TKfashion.
Well....all this might seem to be some real mumbo jumbo....it might well be.
But during this short preiod of time I´ve realized it would be almost impossible to start opening a vendor "Free for all" to buy since I´ll prolly get several Tailor with their opinions regarding my prices.
Conclusion. I´ll prolly need to find a business partner and make an stedy agreement on pricing and hopefully I won´t get screwed, or I´ll just have to grind myself a Tailor
ArthurDentOnBria
Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:07 pm
#9
SchizoF,
It's not so bad. I've found that tailors, being the social players that they are, generally are very very easy to deal with. They can be pretty picky about quality (none of them wants to be known as the tailor that has worse clothing then their competitors), but generally unconcerned about costs (within reason). They generally have the ability to adapt their prices to their costs, whatever their costs may be.
One of the more prolific tailor-tissue BE's on my server last year (who quit the game) used to sell all his tisues (generally +17) for 100k/crate and he had no problems selling them. What you have to be careful of though is that if you position yourself such that you are offering your tissues lower then your competitors, a prolific tailor that discovers your shop will tend to just strip your vendor clean of tissues. So unless you have the capacity and connections to really do an extremely high volume of business, you may need to price accordingly.
As far as tailors and profit margins, I think we are in a pretty good position with them because since most of the know that they can markup their BE clothing pretty high, and most of them have no desire to make their own tissues, that means that potentially we have a lot of pricing power.
Also, just one comment about your example "number zwei" below. Most of the tailors that I'm familiar with that uses such a scheme generally uses the high value to determine pricing. So warcry/intimidate +16/+16 would sell for 16k, and melee/stun +4/+16 would also sell for 16k.
schizoF wrote:
Many thanks for all replies
I´ve been speaking to some tailors and the replies I´ve got from them have made me sooo confused haha
I don´t know much about the tailor profession, thus I´m sticking my posts here at the BE forum to try and prevent not getting my arse flamed till kingdome come
This is some answers by tailors regarding all from tissues to the final product. It´s late so plz forgive me if I mix things up.
Tailor number Uno.
He sell´s his finished products for 1k per enhanchement.
So time for some math. Let´s say the regular Formfitted undershirt with melee/stun def.
It requires 1 tissue. Let´s say I sell it for 3k/tissue and the stats are 4/16.
Ok, I get my nice 3k and walk to the closes cantina, while he´s selling his final product for the stated 1k/enhachement....damn! He walks away 17k profit?! Still he thought 3k was to much
Tailor number Zwei
He sells the final product for 10-15k, no matter what kind of enhanchement it was. Nor did he care about how many tissues were required. The profit, he told me, wasen´t good but he thought it wasen´t about the profit, it was about the profession (holy damn....does non-profit players excist?!).
Tailor Tre
All BE clothes was started with a 10k mark, same as our unofficial setting for making BE pets with armour. Then he added the pricing for tissues (x tissues multiplied with price per tissue). And finally he added the price index from TKfashion.
Well....all this might seem to be some real mumbo jumbo....it might well be.
But during this short preiod of time I´ve realized it would be almost impossible to start opening a vendor "Free for all" to buy since I´ll prolly get several Tailor with their opinions regarding my prices.
Conclusion. I´ll prolly need to find a business partner and make an stedy agreement on pricing and hopefully I won´t get screwed, or I´ll just have to grind myself a Tailor
etopia
Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:02 am
#10
I've been trying to figure out the same thing. I have notbothered to sell tailor tissues in over a year cause the resources are so muchof a hassleto get. And I evidently started way too low.... Just stocked a vendor and priced, for example, the Active Biosensors/Tensile Resistance/Enhanced Myolfex at 85K per crate, the Coag agents at 45k per crate. And had up others in the same price range - the whole vendor sold out in less than 12 hours and I had a LOT of tissues posted!Now it's not that I mind the sellout but I obviously priced way too lowsince theydisappeared that quickly! Am slowly adding more to the vendor - this time at 127.5 per crate of Active Bios, etcand 67.5 for the coag agents. I think you just have to test the market. And truly the servers support different priceing schemes. So what I can sell for on Tarquinas at a certain price may not work at all for you. One tailor told me my first prices were too high but she bought a BUNCH!Hmmmmm... So maybe don't ask a tailor for input!
but I obviously priced way too lowsince theydisappeared that quickly! Am slowly adding more to the vendor - this time at 127.5 per crate of Active Bios, etcand 67.5 for the coag agents. I think you just have to test the market. And truly the servers support different priceing schemes. So what I can sell for on Tarquinas at a certain price may not work at all for you. One tailor told me my first prices were too high but she bought a BUNCH!Hmmmmm... So maybe don't ask a tailor for input!Good luck to you!
Ebacca
Zigabob
Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:08 pm
#11
Thething with tailor tissues is that BE clothing doesn't have a lot of turnover. People buy a set of BE clothing and don't need any more for a long time (unless they are an idiot and get killed a dozen times without insurance). So it can be feast or famine sometimes. I sold 5crates of each of the advanced tissues to a tailor the other day which took me a lot of work to put together, but the tailor told me that he probably would never need to buy tissues again. Personally, I like getting my vendor cleaned out by a tailor and then working to get it stocked up again.
Cheers,
Withme Freysen
MBE
schizoF
Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:07 am
#12
Becouse I got curious I decided to make me an Tailor alt.
I know see and partly understand why so few BE´s are making Tailor tisses.
Not only doest it require lot´s and lot´s of resources.
Many of them are specific resource (as with Doc), but to make and be able to supply Tailor tissues at a regular rate , for us not that rich, it would be a pain.
Still, I won´t break, I´m gonna make Tailor Tissues
I know see and partly understand why so few BE´s are making Tailor tisses.
Not only doest it require lot´s and lot´s of resources.
Many of them are specific resource (as with Doc), but to make and be able to supply Tailor tissues at a regular rate , for us not that rich, it would be a pain.
Still, I won´t break, I´m gonna make Tailor Tissues
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