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Thread: TC being updated with CU

bline163
Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:31 am
#1

Got this from the ranger forums. Anyone planning on starting the grind all over again?


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=in_testing&message.id=44899#M44899





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Spazzers
Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:05 pm
#2

They say there's no frogs but there has to be frogs. There isn't enough time to test without a frog. By the time someone grinds to master BE the alpha/beta public TC test will be over.


This whole "testing" thing is like going to the beach and never getting sand in your shoes.



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sciguyCO
Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:18 pm
#3

There's no frogs at first. They want people to start from scratch to get a feel for the new systems and to check the advancement rate for brand new characters. And it'll cut down on the noise from people getting onto TC just for the template swapping.


Frogs will show up in later test phases. They must show up. We don't have the time to test without them. Phase 1 looks like it's going to be a blank galaxy. So no harvesters until someone hand samples the 250ish units of metal and ore for the first one. And getting to engineering 3 by hand sampling is painful to think about. Yes, I actually did it at one time, but I had time to spare at that point. Plus I don't want to have to go back


Later phases will almost certainly have frogs, and will likely include live galaxy copies to test character and item conversion.





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LloydPickering
Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:30 am
#4

I dont see why they dont have blue frogs with limited options...

Blue frogs with resources, buffs, armor, harvs, money.

How are we supposed to test without the things we are now accustomed too.

Int he current system, it is easier for a vet with money to grind than a n00b. I made Marksman in a couple of hours, wheras a n0ob, it took me weeks. the reason why was that I could afford good weapons, good armor and buffs. Buffs are dissapearing we know that, but if we have to grind without Armor or good weapons, then surely thats going to make a big difference to the testing.

The very reason we are in this mess, that sparked the start of the CURB was because the Devs never expected us to craft items as strong as we have. Looks like we are going to hit the same problem again, unless they can faithfully recreate an avg server on TC.

The problem with the current testing plan to check the advancement rate is that we aren't all starting the game as n00bs. We are on established servers where people have the money to help bypass the pains of grinding.



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Grozurr
Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:50 pm
#5



LloydPickering wrote:
I dont see why they dont have blue frogs with limited options...

Blue frogs with resources, buffs, armor, harvs, money.

How are we supposed to test without the things we are now accustomed too.

Int he current system, it is easier for a vet with money to grind than a n00b. I made Marksman in a couple of hours, wheras a n0ob, it took me weeks. the reason why was that I could afford good weapons, good armor and buffs. Buffs are dissapearing we know that, but if we have to grind without Armor or good weapons, then surely thats going to make a big difference to the testing.

The very reason we are in this mess, that sparked the start of the CURB was because the Devs never expected us to craft items as strong as we have. Looks like we are going to hit the same problem again, unless they can faithfully recreate an avg server on TC.

The problem with the current testing plan to check the advancement rate is that we aren't all starting the game as n00bs. We are on established servers where people have the money to help bypass the pains of grinding.




The do have some blue frogs w/ limited options...check theed. you CANNOT gain skills however, but you can get weapons and mounts/vehicles. The blue frogs DO NOT HAVE: buffs, armor, resources, skills, msc items. They DO have weapons and money. i think that's about all they have atm, but more will open as more needs to be tested.

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Mereset
Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:15 am
#6

I did test the cu and i felt i was playing the kids version of swg i know is early to make a fair opinion on wether this will work but somehow i felt very sad on how the game was going to be (i hope is nothing like i just experience) they even make new toolbars signs(and ask in the first question how good was it) what does new toolkeys do for the CU?

Not impresed by it but will try to keep an open mind and give this new disaster a fair chance.
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