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Thread: Petstims

JayBurns
Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:44 pm
#1

I recentlyfinished a batch of Petstim-C. When I first started, I offereda masterCH guildmate half the final factory run of stims if he helped me get the resources to make the advanced dstim components and final product. Well it just so happened he had 6k dathomirian insect meat 500/900/900 onFLPE and OQ already, and I had the fiberplast at 950 OQ/ 900 UT. So I said to myself, 'wow thats going to be a great way to boost my confidence about my newly aquired master BE title, first up- super petstims!' I couldn't have been more wrong.


After a week of harvesting and hunting the various resources for the advanced components and hiring various master doctors to make the schematics along the way, it finally came time to make the prototype for the factory run of petstims. Sowe get allthe hard earned ingredients together and I boot the 99% food&chem station. First try, Great success on assembly, Great success on all experimentation. Finished prototype? 968 power, 30 charge, I thought these other stims I've seen with 30+ charges at 1200 power must have been all amazing successes. So I try about 10 more times, the best stim had one amazing success on the charges, considering thelimited pool of previously shiftedinsect meat I was getting worried. My friend wanted quantity over quality so I ended up running 772 power, 37 charge for the final factory run. What is wrong with me? It can't be the resources, the stims were experimented to above 90% on a few prototypes.


So I'm asking all the other master BEs out there to comment on their stim making experiences, how does one get 30+ charges with 1200 power on a stim-C? I've heard there are no SEAs for this profession, but perhaps I am mistaken? Maybe there was some nerf on petstims to go along with the Clvl 10 pet nerfs? If anyone could clear this up I'd be grateful.


Still confused,


JBurns
NancyJ
Thu Apr 08, 2004 10:16 pm
#2

Were you using Master Doc made sub compoonents?




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Xikago
Thu Apr 08, 2004 10:31 pm
#3






NancyJ wrote:
Were you using Master Doc made sub compoonents?





Master Doc subcomponents is part of it, but to get 30+ charges, the ABECs need to be experimented largely on charges by the Master Doc as well.



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NancyJ
Thu Apr 08, 2004 10:34 pm
#4

A good Master Doc will experiment on charges for their own products, it makes sense that they would also do so for the ones they sell.




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JayBurns
Fri Apr 09, 2004 10:40 am
#5

That would be the problem, I recruited the doctors to use my own resources and told them to maximise power on all of the components. Wish I had know this before I wasted hundreds of thousands of credit worth organics making them though. So I assume there is some kind of cap on power depending on the stim created? I have never seen a petstim C over 1200. So it would be useful to know exactly how the components add up in the final stimto know when to stop experimenting the components on power. Now scouring the doctor threads on any relevant formulae.


Thanks for the replies,


JBurns

Albion_DeCrappa
Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:44 am
#6


What were the stats on your med components (ALS, ABEC, ACRDM/CRDM)


All components made by a 12Point Master Doctor (ABEC all points put into Charges first, remainder in power)
From what I am told all successes were either great or amazing on the components.
- ALS - 171p (Dan Berries - 600+OQ/900+PE, Talus Water OQ960+)
- ABEC - 21c/10p (Lok Wild Wheat OQ800+/PE300+, Tatooine Fiberplast OQ700+/UT900+)
- CRDM - 19p (Veg Greens: OQ950+, PE900+/Fiberplast: OQ900+)
- Pet Stim C - 36/1141 (Dant Insect: 800+/900+/500+, Fiberplast: OQ900+/UT990+)


I never use ACRDM cause the power is 1:1 and C4/Herb is much too difficultto findfor the 40 point increase in power.


Great Success -35/696 (Can't remember the exact number in power but it was high 600s)


Experiment 9 points in power (That's the max Iwas able todo.)


Great Success - 35/1141


Experiment 1 point in charges


Amazing Success - 36/1141.





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Albion_DeCrappa
Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:52 pm
#7

The first mistake was the ABEC, always have the doctor max out charges before even worrying about power. Remember ABECs are 1:1 on power and charges. If I get a 21c/10p ABEC and my end charges are 36 then my end charges on a 10c/31p ABEC are going to be 25. Personally I'd rather have the extra 11 charges then the extra 21 power.


Second, where did you put your experimentation when making the pet stims? You should be maxing out power before you even thinking of putting anything into charges, let your ABEChandlethe additional charges and let your experimentation and ALS deal with the power. As for the ACRDM, like I said, don't bother with them. The hastle of getting the resources way more then outweighs the 30 or 40 points of power you will get from them over the standard CRDM.


Good luck man.





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JayBurns
Sat Apr 10, 2004 12:34 am
#8

I can't seem to connect to the server right now, but from memory:


ALS- 162 pwr


ABEC- 31 pwr


ACRDM- 58 pwr



So supposedly my petstims would have been highly above average in terms of healing power, these are good components allexperimented by master docs with great successes. I know the ALS was only inhibited by the 844OQ talusian water, the dant berries were 888 PE/971 OQ. The ACRDM was above average with 910 oq class 4 liquidpetro, and 800oq/300pe lokian herbivore meat. ABEC was using 900 OQ/700 UTtatooine fiberplast and 730 OQ/350 PE lokian wheat. And I searched and searched in the doc forums but didn't see anything that calculates the components stats into the final stim quality.


Regards,


JBurns


JayBurns
Sat Apr 10, 2004 12:35 am
#9


I can't seem to connect to the server right now, but from memory:


ALS- 162 pwr


ABEC- 31 pwr


ACRDM- 58 pwr



So supposedly my petstims would have been highly above average in terms of healing power, these are good components allexperimented by master docs with great successes. I know the ALS was only inhibited by the 844OQ talusian water, the dant berries were 888 PE/971 OQ. The ACRDM was above average with 910 oq class 4 liquidpetro, and 800oq/300pe lokian herbivore meat. ABEC was using 900 OQ/700 UTtatooine fiberplast and 730 OQ/350 PE lokian wheat. And I searched and searched in the doc forums but didn't see anything that calculates the components stats into the final stim quality.


Regards,


JBurns


JayBurns
Sat Apr 10, 2004 12:37 am
#10

Bah, telling me I'm not logged in, sorry formultiple post.
obeewan
Sat Apr 10, 2004 9:26 am
#11

I just made a few 1174/29's


-ALS - 150p



- ABEC - 16/13


- CRDM - 52p


I believe I used 998/512 fiberplast


and the insect was 900+/900+


(if I remember corectly)



In the medical sub-components, UT determines charges (possibly DR with the water) and the OQ/PE the final heal amount.


Hope this helps





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