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Thread: BE update mentioned on latest Dev Interview

Ganson
Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:42 am
#1

J. Allen Brack


"We've made changes to both the Combat Medics and Bio-engineers, which should be coming out shortly. We are putting a plan together to add combat droids to the Droid Engineer profession. "


from "http://swg.egcore.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=462&pagenum=2&"


Anyone know specifilcally if he is talking about the cloning changes and if he means in the mounts/cities publish?


Gan'Son

GreenStok
Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:51 am
#2

I read that.


It sounds like some big changes are coming, but are in the developing stages. So... it might be a month or 2 before they hit the test server and 6 months before we see it, if it survives test.


I have already accomplished most everything I care to. I was a Millionaire before I was a Master and have a great deal more now. I can't imagine finding 6 months worth of new goals.




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MarjongMeatshield
Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:14 am
#3

Come on GreenStok, yer usually more positive than that


If you read the post above from our BE Developer he clearly says he practically had the cloning done, just not quite in time for last publish. If you think about it, there's a few reasons they should push the changes out anyway.


1.) If the Dev had the changes coded and ready to go almost a month ago. Why postpone more? Why not push it out and make one profession happy. I know with the cloning fixes(if they are done well, which i have confidence in our BE Dev), i'll be happy. Tada, there's one profession down for them. No more asking "where's Our darn fix??" from BEs.


2.) Mounts are coming and one of those is the Bol....and i admit, i think it looks cool andi sure as heck want to ride one. But it's bugged, they can't release mounts and not fix the bol at least(cause come on, that'd be REALLY stupid)...and why just fix the bol when they probably have to fix all cloning just to fix it anyway.


3.) The upcoming CH changes are reducing CHs to one pet unless yer a master(if they go in just like TH posted). That's going to make the demand for one Super pet HUGE. And who can make super pets? WE CAN! Or at least with the cloning changes we can. To modify creature armor, add special attacks etc. Who won't want to order a pet from a BE? Add to that the fact that CHs will get a command to make pets do special attacks. I think our pets will become quite popular.


Anyway....hang in there.


Marjong Meatshield


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Yosho_Tarien
Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:31 am
#4

Sorry Marjong, they added bol babies back in on test center. No dice there. And if the CH changes go in as stated our super nonCH pets will have to squish under lvl10. With only one pet everyone will want a kaadu.


These changes better be really good. We might have an acutal CH market if we're lucky. Though I don't see much hope in the mount or nonCH department. Novice kaadu don't count.




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MarjongMeatshield
Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:45 am
#5

Well that's good if the bol babies were added. Seperate from our cloning fix, but at least the bols are fixed!


Honestly, do you think everyone is going to give up CH over these changes? It just won't happen. Too many people like to solo and like having a pet. It's just not going to happen, the CH market isn't going anywhere.At least halfare just going to pop a few more skill points into it instead of totally dropping CH. There may be fewer dabblers and fewer of the NonCH pets running around. ALot of people cry Nerf but it's nota nerf. They have a valid concern and are fixing it. Getting 100% benefit for learning half the profession is screwy. Me for example, i'm 3/3/2/4 in CH. Right now i can control up to max lvl of creatures 45. With the new CH system i think i'm the same, because i have points in the other trees. The change almost has 0 effect on me. (i can't remember exact number i would have under new rules, but it's was almost right on 45)


All our pets won't have to be under lvl 10, because there will be plenty of high CHs/MCH left.


As far as mounts i don't see much business coming from that. Mounts just don't costs much to make or sell for much either. As far as the nonCH market we already got a very small share of that as it is.


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Reasonable1
Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:12 am
#6

I thnk Marjong is just writing this stuff to bait me. The dev said the cloning changes were nearly done 50 days ago to be specific. Two major patches. One of which was the Tissue change, which seems to have inspired your confidence. And how many tissues can we not make because of ingredients? And stacking works exactly as it's supposed to? At this point they're going to roll Cloning out to Test Center "with minimal internal testing". So TC will be the place it primarily gets tested. And the feedback process goes through our ... correspondent. I'm trying to figure out where your confidence comes from.



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MarjongMeatshield
Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:00 pm
#7

hehe, Reasonable1....i am a covert Dev...mwuahaha


I just think it's worth holding out.


There are two tissues that i know of, that i don't make. +tamers and +covers(and isn't cover screwy atm?) No milk and no mullosks. I find a decent amount of eggs now for the +dance/music.


I have no other option but to have confidence in our BE Dev. I believe he was straight forward about the stacking issue, he wasn't sure Why it was like that. Who knows how many pages of code he'll have to dig through to find out. But from my personal tissue sells experience, they are selling fine and people are buying them up. Not that most people know how they are supposed to truly stack anyway. I'm not sure i even uderstand it. I'm not a tailor, i don't claim to know. I only make the parts of the whole.


Anyway, i went off on a little tangent. What other option do i have, but to dispair and quit? Well damnit, i'm not ready to. I like being a BioEngineer. The idea of making truly unique pets and having all those little options to play with like armor, special attacks and resists sounds like alot of fun to me. I'm willing to wait it out and just be happy when it does get here. For the most part i like about every BE that posts here because overall, they stay calm albeit a little frustrated, but they don't go off halfcocked ranting and raving. But,the changesARE coming, because the Devs Have to. They have too much time and money invested in this game already....failure is not an option. It's just taking longer than we all like, i know i wish it moved a little faster.


I totally agree our correspondant mess is a load of crap. I want to know what's going on as bad as the next person. But TH is working on it, he just stepped into a crapstorm of information and he'll get it sorted out as fast as he can. I'll volunteer to fill the roll if needed, but looks like nothing is going to happen right away yet.


Anyway...Long live BEs!


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