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Thread: Why does everyone Cry over Schems??

JeCy
Sat Oct 02, 2004 11:56 pm
#1

Just one question here,,,


do you supply all the bio tissue to the galaxie??


Do you make every Bio tissue, for anyone a singel or a crate???


If i go to your venderright now can i get 5 stim D's with,10 myoflex same serial, ohh yea i need a crate of edible nano constructors???? ohh wait you never made those.. I want it tommorrow... umm on second thought,, i want it right now


Just currious.....
Mallstrop
Sun Oct 03, 2004 2:43 am
#2






JeCy wrote:

Just one question here,,,


do you supply all the bio tissue to the galaxie??


Do you make every Bio tissue, for anyone a singel or a crate???


If i go to your venderright now can i get 5 stim D's with,10 myoflex same serial, ohh yea i need a crate of edible nano constructors???? ohh wait you never made those.. I want it tommorrow... umm on second thought,, i want it right now


Just currious.....







If I came to you right now could I get schematics for all of your products that sell well please. I need to set up a chef vendor next door to yours selling things for prices that no chefs can compete with. I guess if I'm supplying the resources then it costs you nothing to make schematics? I think 50k each would cover it, or will you settle for less?


I would grind chef to do it but I'm too lazy, it's so much easier to buy cheap schematics from chefs, it's not asif they do a lot of work to get to chef.




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ArthurDentOnBria
Sun Oct 03, 2004 10:04 am
#3




What does the making of a 5-stack of Stim D's have to do with the "to make a schematic, or to not make a schematic" issue? Even if I was one who sold schematics, I certainly wouldn't sell one for a run of 5 stim D's, because it wouldn't be worth my time to do so. The whole point to making a schematic is to mass produce something.


The other thing is that you bring up the need to get something immediately. Well, that too has nothing to do with the issue of schematics. Clearly, when a chef asks for a schematic they don't need the product immediately, otherwise they'd be buying the finished product. In fact, of all the times I've been asked for a schematic by a chef, the only time they've ever asked me whether I have what they need in stock is after I turn them down. It takes nearly 3 days from the time they purchase a schematic for intelligent nano until the time that factory run is complete. Clearly it's not about timeliness at all, it's sadly all about credits.


Do I supply the whole galaxy? No, not even close, but I could if I sold schematics. And will I make you a schematic, simply because it's forsomething that I don't carry? Nope, I'm not that selfish. Not at least until I feel you've exhausted all other possibilities. Because I have to pass the "would I want others to do that to me?" test. Drat, having a conscience sucks. Must be nice not having one, lol.







JeCy wrote:



Just one question here,,,


do you supply all the bio tissue to the galaxie??


Do you make every Bio tissue, for anyone a singel or a crate???


If i go to your venderright now can i get 5 stim D's with,10 myoflex same serial, ohh yea i need a crate of edible nano constructors???? ohh wait you never made those.. I want it tommorrow... umm on second thought,, i want it right now


Just currious.....





Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 10-03-2004 10:10 AM



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Kryxal
Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:18 pm
#4

And how much are you willing to spend on a schematic? Probably not nearly as much as the difference between selling cost and resource cost plus overhead ... then again, given how much chefs would LIKE to spend, and how much meat costs...



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furrycat
Sun Oct 03, 2004 3:59 pm
#5

Schematic trading already is in line with SOE's desire to encourage cross profession dependancies.




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shargus
Sun Oct 03, 2004 5:57 pm
#6

In my opinion cross profession dependancy is when one professions relies upon another to actively practice and participate in their profession. For example a BE accumulates resources, crafts and then produces tissues to be used by chefs.


Schematic trading is a cross skill dependancy ona singleabilityacquired after gaining a specific amount of experience. For example a chef who has an alt BE.
furrycat
Sun Oct 03, 2004 6:06 pm
#7

> Schematic trading is a cross skill dependancy on a single ability
> acquired after gaining a specific amount of experience.

Come again?

If you are a chef and you want additives you need to find a bio-engineer or become a bio-engineer. That is cross-profession dependency.




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shargus
Sun Oct 03, 2004 6:25 pm
#8


Let me try and explain a different way. Let's start with a definition.



Active Bio-Engineer =A Bio-Engineerwho is participating in their profession by performing all the actions normally associated with that profession. Accumulating resources, crafting products, producing prodcuts, etc.


When a chef buys tissues from an active Bio-Engineer they are participating in cross profession dependancy.


When a cheftrades for a schematic they are just dependent on the Bio-Engineers "skill" not the Bio-Engineer participating in his "profession". A good example is a Chef with a BE alt. The BE alt more than likely just whore's out schematics for the Chef and is not participating in the BE profession.





Message Edited by shargus on 10-03-2004 08:25 PM

furrycat
Sun Oct 03, 2004 6:52 pm
#9

> When a chef trades for a schematic they are just dependent on the Bio-Engineers "skill"

Yes that is what cross-profession dependency is.

Unfortunately SOE only gave us the Bio-Engineer profession. When they introduce the Shargus-Approved Bio-Engineer your definition of dependency may become more relevant.




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warhound13
Sun Oct 03, 2004 7:02 pm
#10

lol - I don't cry about it - I'll sell you any schem you like for a dfair price - 1.6 million for a full schem for med additives - exactly what I'd get for selling a full run - or I'll prorata it to the level of schem you want - otherwise - don't be a noob




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shargus
Sun Oct 03, 2004 7:36 pm
#11


Try and get a pair of glasses furrycat, you seem to be a bit short sighted on the meaning of profession.


Just because I can cook doesn't mean I'm a "professional" chef

Message Edited by shargus on 10-03-2004 09:39 PM

furrycat
Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:00 pm
#12

Nor does it prevent you from baking your friends a cake if that's how you choose to put the skills you worked for to use.




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shargus
Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:16 pm
#13

Anyways, schematic making = bad = reduces the value of the BE profession to a whore.


Just say no!

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