Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: My new BE tissues/additives discovery!
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Teemo
Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:13 pm
#1
I dunno if this has been mentioned before, I don't browse through the forums much.
I was experimenting with tissues/additives the other night, and found that the FL/PE/OQ ratings aren't exactly 33% each. Here's some background of my experiment:
Take two resources: Tubers and Beans. The Beans have a higher sum of FL/PE/OQ by about 5 total points compared to the Tubers, however the Tubers have a much higher OQ. To make this easier, lets say the Tubers have 900 OQ, the Beans have 800.
Sincethe Beans havea higher sum of FL/PE/OQ, you would think that it was a better resource to choose for Tissues/Additives. This wasn't the case; the Tubers yielded a better result. I used the same meat in all experiments. With multiple trials, I concluded that the Beans as flora would yield an 89% maximum experimental value, while the Tubers would yield 90% experimental.
What does this mean? I think the FL/PE/OQ split may actually be 33% FL, 33% PE, 34% OQ. This might not seem to be a big deal, but the difference between 89% and 90% is huge when making additives or tissues.
In short, Overall Quality is weighted heavier than Flavor and Potential Energy in experiments.
NancyJ
Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:30 pm
#2
This has been mentioned before but if you can get me some more solid numbers I can look into it.
Kevm
Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:40 pm
#3
Maybe a candidate for the next 19 Answers when or if they ever get started again?
Seiryuu
Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:45 pm
#4
If used as a 19 Questions submission we have to be careful because of TH's solid "no formulas" policy.
Maybe ask something about how each stat contributes to the final product, such as OQ weighting the maximum quality while FL weights the gain for experimentation, or the like.
Maybe ask something about how each stat contributes to the final product, such as OQ weighting the maximum quality while FL weights the gain for experimentation, or the like.
Kevm
Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:19 pm
#5
You're right. My suggestion would be something like this:
The BE community has noticed through our own trial and error that the 33% weighting to FL/OQ/PE stated in the schematics is not correct. Our own testing seems to indicate that OQ has a higher influence and that PE isn't as important.
We'd like to have the dev's responsible look at this and tell us what the correct weighting factors are for PE/OQ/FL since we know those stated in game are incorrect.
ArthurDentOnBria
Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:24 pm
#6
Well, this would be under the category of "bug" though, since the dern formula is listed right on the schematic, it's just that it's not behaving "as advertised" (according to the author of this post).
Seiryuu wrote:
If used as a 19 Questions submission we have to be careful because of TH's solid "no formulas" policy.
NancyJ
Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:32 pm
#7
If there is a problem then its a bug and I dont think we should ahve to waste a question to get an answer on it.
However if it is just a case of 33/33/34 then thats not really a bug its just basic maths - the percentages have to add up to 100, I think if it is the case of a 33/33/34 split its just a rounding issue and not really a bug, however if its as suggested in another thread that OQ is weighted significantly higher then thats something that needs addressing.
However if it is just a case of 33/33/34 then thats not really a bug its just basic maths - the percentages have to add up to 100, I think if it is the case of a 33/33/34 split its just a rounding issue and not really a bug, however if its as suggested in another thread that OQ is weighted significantly higher then thats something that needs addressing.
Dzed
Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:50 pm
#8
Honestly, I think this is pish-posh compared to some of the other issues regarding BE, please don't waste our 19 answers q.
Teemo
Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:35 pm
#9
I didn't post this as a bug, it's just a technicality. Maybe this can be an unspoken rule amongst veteran BE's 
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NikkiDial
Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:23 pm
#11
I have come to the conclusion awhile ago that the formula for tissues is 30/30/40 instead of 33/33/33.
droid327
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:48 pm
#12
yeah I also have noted that the BE score on resources wasnt adding up to the proper tissuemaximum, but moreso thanjust a single percentage point....OQ seems much more weightedin the final result; 30 30 40 sounds closer toreality. Going by SWGCraft BE scores, I should've been able to make 87 BSN with a certain combination of 900s FL PE 700s OQ meat and the flora I had, but it only came out to 86.
Joilhath
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:48 pm
#13
Well I this think it's much higher than 34% the OQ seems to determine the how high the initial result is before the experimentation while PE and to a much lesser extent FL determine how high you can get it with experimentation. Here's a link to some of the numbers I've had that point to this.
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