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Thread: The CURB, armor, and Super 10's

Kivrin
Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:17 pm
#1

Here's some speculation on the CURB with respect to Bio-Engineers and specifically the super CL10's. I'm not part of the team or close to anyone who is, so any relation to actual happenings is completely coincidental. #:/

From the Combat Upgrade: Armor System Enhancements of a while back we can see that they're removing armor piercing from weapons:


The primary change seen in weapons is the removal of the armor piercing system and addition of an energy level setting on a player's weapon.


Obviously the damage calculations to armor will have to change, and they do, to a new General Protection number:


The damage mitigation stats on armor are being changed completely in the combat upgrade. While the names of the stats will remain the same, we have devised a new number range and backend meaning. The new types are General Protection and Specific Protections. General protection will range from 0 to 6,000. The general protection of armor will be the baseline stat that reflects how much absorption armor can take against all incoming damage.


So for pets, where is that number going to come from? Obvious choice is fortitude. Right now we have armor or no armor depending which side of 500 fortitude we're on. You can craft one of the Super CL10's, stop experimenting at fortitude of 498, and hit non-CH. One more point and it's light armor and CL22. If they take fortitude into consideration after the upgrade, more than likely the general protection number will knock the existing super-recipes out of CL10.

I don't even know what it would do to current pets. If they recalculate the CL using the creature's fortitude it could potentially invalidate all existing uber pets. However that could affect all CH's and their pets as well. If they reverse engineer the GP# from the CL then existing things may stay intact, though who knows.



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Zadokk
Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:19 pm
#2

I can't say anything without breaking the NDA. It's like if I even hint at anything I get hunted down by the FBI and dragged off into a dark room. It sucks.
Ekaw
Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:47 pm
#3

they better nerf the cl 10 pets..



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droid327
Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:27 pm
#4



Zadokk wrote:
I can't say anything without breaking the NDA. It's like if I even hint at anything I get hunted down by the FBI and dragged off into a dark room. It sucks.




lol yeah I know, its frustrating because so much of what people are speculating is just because it makes good sense, but since I KNOW if it is or isnt going to change that way, I cant say anything about it, even though if I wasnt in the NDA I would say the exact same thing anyway, because it makes sense



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Halthron
Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:57 pm
#5

Hold on, did this thing start already? Or is that something else that can't be commented on? I've asked that before but you two sound like it's already active.
droid327
Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:51 pm
#6



Halthron wrote:
Hold on, did this thing start already? Or is that something else that can't be commented on? I've asked that before but you two sound like it's already active.




......cant comment on that. But I can tell you that there is a restricted access forum for CU testers to discuss things, thats public domain



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LloydPickering
Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:22 am
#7



Zadokk wrote:
It's like if I even hint at anything I get hunted down by the FBI and dragged off into a dark room. It sucks.




Are you perhaps hinting at what happens to Jedi that get visibility after the CURB? You could be done for saying that...



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Kivrin
Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:01 am
#8

Well, I guess that leaves no one else to discuss my theories with.

I know you're all under NDA's, but I wish the powers that be would let you guys post something, anything, on how it's going. Just an "it's going well" would be nice.



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Spazzers
Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:52 am
#9








Kivrin wrote:
*snip


So for pets, where is that number going to come from? Obvious choice is fortitude. Right now we have armor or no armor depending which side of 500 fortitude we're on. You can craft one of the Super CL10's, stop experimenting at fortitude of 498, and hit non-CH. One more point and it's light armor and CL22. If they take fortitude into consideration after the upgrade, more than likely the general protection number will knock the existing super-recipes out of CL10.

I don't even know what it would do to current pets. If they recalculate the CL using the creature's fortitude it could potentially invalidate all existing uber pets. However that could affect all CH's and their pets as well. If they reverse engineer the GP# from the CL then existing things may stay intact, though who knows.






I can't comment on whether or not this outline applies to the CU. I can say that I like this outline for dealing with uber 10's. You don't even know how much I wish I could say more.



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PlainWhiteSocks
Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:07 pm
#10


Thunderheart wrote:

We will know more after the testers start getting into the Alpha and we can get some more feedback.

Know I know this was just a high level doc, but it is a really good description of the high level goals. The details are fluid, which is why the public discovery process will be slower than usual.





The above quote was made on 01-18-2005 at 02:14 PM in this thread.



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Felisconcolori
Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:26 pm
#11






Zadokk wrote:





Kivrin wrote:
Well, I guess that leaves no one else to discuss my theories with.

I know you're all under NDA's, but I wish the powers that be would let you guys post something, anything, on how it's going. Just an "it's going well" would be nice.




Can't even say that. I surprised that this thread hasn't been deleted yet . Oh wait, did I just jinx it?






But, can you tell me, and then shoot me? Or better yet... I'm cleared for sensitive security information. *waves hand* That will work for SOE. *waves hand* It will not violate the NDA.


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Zadokk
Fri Mar 04, 2005 1:21 am
#12



Kivrin wrote:
Well, I guess that leaves no one else to discuss my theories with.

I know you're all under NDA's, but I wish the powers that be would let you guys post something, anything, on how it's going. Just an "it's going well" would be nice.


Can't even say that. I surprised that this thread hasn't been deleted yet . Oh wait, did I just jinx it?
LloydPickering
Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:05 am
#13

You could always talk about it to erm...trusted individuals via email (non-forum) which is external to SWG...



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