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Thread: Novice CH – DEs, what will CL12 get me?
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Oculus
Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:38 am
#1
Hello Bio-Engineers.
I've recently dropped Novice Medic and picked up Novice Creature Handler.
Now giving up Medic is tough for me, so I was wondering what a CL12 pet would look like in terms of stats etc.
Part of the reason I went for Novice CH was the ability to have both my droid and my mount out at the same time when I'm out hunting ( I'm a Master Ranger, a mount just feels more rangerish
).
So a CL2 mount. Any of you have any experience with these kind of pets?
I've recently dropped Novice Medic and picked up Novice Creature Handler.
Now giving up Medic is tough for me, so I was wondering what a CL12 pet would look like in terms of stats etc.
Part of the reason I went for Novice CH was the ability to have both my droid and my mount out at the same time when I'm out hunting ( I'm a Master Ranger, a mount just feels more rangerish
).So a CL2 mount. Any of you have any experience with these kind of pets?
Oku Kee'lus
Kivrin
Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:52 am
#2
It can get you a lot. HAM in the 9k/6k/4k range, 50-60% kinetic resists, damage in the 200's, two specials with 1 or both of them being useful, and most likely a ranged attack.
That's a typical novice CH tank. There's a lot of compromise involved with BE creatures, so if you wanted higher damage you can at the cost of some HAM. Or take lower kinetic resists but have some other resists in there as well.
It's best to lay out what your goals are for the creature, what features are important, and where you're willing to make sacrafices. Hope this helps.
That's a typical novice CH tank. There's a lot of compromise involved with BE creatures, so if you wanted higher damage you can at the cost of some HAM. Or take lower kinetic resists but have some other resists in there as well.
It's best to lay out what your goals are for the creature, what features are important, and where you're willing to make sacrafices. Hope this helps.
Message Edited by Kivrin on 03-02-2005 11:52 AM
Magincia
Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:02 am
#3
Take a look at what the NON Ch market pets are looking like, this will give you a general Idea of what a 11-14 pet might look like. Most 11-14 pets can have a higher Damage, stronger or more resists or a Higher Ham.
It is going to depend on what you are looking for the pet to do for you. I know I often carry 11-14s with 8-10K Ham with 130-220 damage and some resists, usually Kin and Blast. And specials of Stun, Intim, Dizzy or a Med Posion....
I hope this helps you a little bit in your quest of being a touch of CH.
Zadokk
Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:02 pm
#4
Basically the same as you can get at CL10 just slightly higher DPS.
droid327
Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:30 pm
#5
You can get 60% kin and light armor with stun/intim if you find a BE sick in the head as Zadokk
You'd have no DPS and pretty low HAM, but with a set of buffs on your pet this would be a pretty bad little tank and great exp but probly not worth it, since you level up to CL20s pretty quick and you can get armor there a lot easier anyway.
You'd have no DPS and pretty low HAM, but with a set of buffs on your pet this would be a pretty bad little tank and great exp
but probly not worth it, since you level up to CL20s pretty quick and you can get armor there a lot easier anyway.
Halthron
Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:25 am
#6
Yep, what Zadokk said. If you can get a 11k health, 60% critter, you can get the same with Novice CH except the BE can puch the action and mind higher and drop a point into agression as well. Use all the experimentation points and give the pet an extra 1000 on the action and mind pools plus 75-100 more damage.
Oculus
Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:39 am
#7
Thanks for the replies everyone
Let me just throw out an example then and see if it would be possible for a CL12 pet.
Now I want a mount, so it would be a bantha, carrion spat or bol.
H: ~8000K
A: ~6000K
M: ~4000K
Kinetic resist: ~30-40% ( Willing to settle for low kinetic and get less vulnerable types )
Special Attack1: Poison
Special Attack2: Disease
A ranged attack isn't really necesarry.
Doable?
Let me just throw out an example then and see if it would be possible for a CL12 pet.
Now I want a mount, so it would be a bantha, carrion spat or bol.
H: ~8000K
A: ~6000K
M: ~4000K
Kinetic resist: ~30-40% ( Willing to settle for low kinetic and get less vulnerable types )
Special Attack1: Poison
Special Attack2: Disease
A ranged attack isn't really necesarry.
Doable?
Sneakthief2004
Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:49 am
#8
1 minor problem i don't think you can have a droid and a pet out at the same time, i might be wrong though.
ArthurDentOnBria
Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:04 pm
#9
Oculus wrote:
Thanks for the replies everyone
Let me just throw out an example then and see if it would be possible for a CL12 pet.
Now I want a mount, so it would be a bantha, carrion spat or bol.
H: ~8000K
A: ~6000K
M: ~4000K
Kinetic resist: ~30-40% ( Willing to settle for low kinetic and get less vulnerable types )
Special Attack1: Poison
Special Attack2: Disease
A ranged attack isn't really necesarry.
Doable?
You'd need to quantify whatyour requirements are for"less vulnerable types". It's going to depend on that. The technique that allows for the creation of pets with unusually low level and high stats (HAM, potentially kinetic, potentially damage) relies on the fact that most of the resistance types be vulnerable. One of which must be energy. When you don't have armor anyway, I don't think vulnerabilities have much meaning anyway right? My recommendation is not to worry about vulnerabilities and get something with good kinetic and damage.
Oculus
Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:18 am
#10
ArthurDentOnBria wrote:
Oculus wrote:
Thanks for the replies everyone
Let me just throw out an example then and see if it would be possible for a CL12 pet.
Now I want a mount, so it would be a bantha, carrion spat or bol.
H: ~8000K
A: ~6000K
M: ~4000K
Kinetic resist: ~30-40% ( Willing to settle for low kinetic and get less vulnerable types )
Special Attack1: Poison
Special Attack2: Disease
A ranged attack isn't really necesarry.
Doable?You'd need to quantify what your requirements are for "less vulnerable types". It's going to depend on that. The technique that allows for the creation of pets with unusually low level and high stats (HAM, potentially kinetic, potentially damage) relies on the fact that most of the resistance types be vulnerable. One of which must be energy. When you don't have armor anyway, I don't think vulnerabilities have much meaning anyway right? My recommendation is not to worry about vulnerabilities and get something with good kinetic and damage.
Ahhh, thanks ArthurDent. I didn't know that you couldn't "swap" attributes that way.
It's mostly a "ranger-feel" project on my part but I thought I might as well get the best out of it now that I'm giving up Novice Medic.
My harvest droid is starting to annoy me though. Now that harvesting is geared towards grouping it's not as big an advantage as it used to be. Still, should I decide to go Rifleman after the CURB, I'd want to keep it.
Guess I'm more or less ready to put an ad up on the trade-board.
Thanks again to everyone who helped out. You BEs Rock!
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