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Hello everyone!

Since the Patch 13, i've noticed some rather exciting changes happen to me when sampling DNA. Specifically i noticed that the only times i experienced DNA sampling failures (I went IMB DNA hunting last friday night) were when my mask scent wore off and i had not had the chance to reapply it. I experienced this 2 times, out of a total of 34 sampling attempts where the creature did not fly off out of range and recieved a total of 32 samples. I noted carefully that the only times I experienced one of these failures was when my mask scent wore off. I am still having creatures aggro me after some sampling attempts.
I'm curious if anyone else had noticed this trend as well. Moreover, i recieved similar results sampling a couple of mereks i found. In that case, i only recieved a failure when my inventory was full(at which point i deleted some unneeded items).

So the two questions that i'd like to pose to the community:
1) did anyone have this kind of success on a regular basis BEFORE the patch? ( i know i didn't)
2) Has anyone experienced a similar situation after the patch?

Personally, i have a slight hunch that this may be tied somehow loosely to the Crit Failure code and therefore when the devs took out/altered crit failures something in the code may have had an effect on dna sampling.

nonetheless, i was extremely happy to get so many samples of IMB in such a short amount of time.

-Grozzer Agoutt
Kauri
MBE/Sentinel

Message Edited by summerlove on 03-07-2005 11:38 PM

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Grozurr wrote:
Hello everyone!

Since the Patch 13, i've noticed some rather exciting changes happen to me when sampling DNA. Specifically i noticed that the only times i experienced DNA sampling failures (I went IMB DNA hunting last friday night) were when my mask scent wore off and i had not had the chance to reapply it. I experienced this 2 times, out of a total of 34 sampling attempts where the creature did not fly off out of range and recieved a total of 32 samples. I noted carefully that the only times I experienced one of these failures was when my mask scent wore off. I am still having creatures aggro me after some sampling attempts.
I'm curious if anyone else had noticed this trend as well. Moreover, i recieved similar results sampling a couple of mereks i found. In that case, i only recieved a failure when my inventory was full(at which point i deleted some unneeded items).

So the two questions that i'd like to pose to the community:
1) did anyone have this kind of success on a regular basis BEFORE the patch? ( i know i didn't)
2) Has anyone experienced a similar situation after the patch?

Personally, i have a slight hunch that this may be tied somehow loosely to the Crit Failure code and therefore when the devs took out/altered crit failures something in the code may have had an effect on dna sampling.

nonetheless, i was extremely happy to get so many samples of IMB in such a short amount of time.

-Grozzer Agoutt
Kauri
MBE/Sentinel

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Hmmm now u come to mention it...I went out with a smuggler friend a few nights ago (just after patch) and went throuigh 3-4 lair to get IMB samples...I never failed once on any (Mask Scent din't Break) and I got more samples than I was expecting...2VHQ/1HQ/1AA off the first IMB. I just thought I was having a lucky day, and it kept on like this. I got 18 samples, of which most were VHQ with some HQ...I think 2 were AA.

I was surprised at the fact it didn't fail, and the fact I got so many samples from so few critters...lets just say I was pleasantly surprised

Perhaps it is just random.

Pre patch I once managed 3 samples off a MR, and 5 off an IMB.

Keep those sample data coming!

Yesterday I failed 5(!) times in a row on the most fearsome creature imaginable: a huurton pup. Mask Scent was on. And when I finally did get samples, they were above average.

Now maybe I was just having a run of bad luck (it happens), but this is a little rediculous.

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Halthron wrote:

Huurton Pup don't count, they aggro on me almost as much as MR do.

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What do you mean? They shouldn't be aggroing you at all, unless you start poking them. And I wasn't experiencing aggros on sampling failures, I was just experiencing sampling failures.

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

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Grozurr wrote:
1) did anyone have this kind of success on a regular basis BEFORE the patch? ( i know i didn't)
2) Has anyone experienced a similar situation after the patch?

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I'm really not bragging here, just sharing my relative data. My before patch and after patch sampling hasn't really changed at all. Before the patch I was getting numbers like you are seeing on IMB's. I did a hunt not too long ago for them, and I don't remember an IMB breaking my mask scent at any time after I de-agro from hitting it's liar. I also remember my fail sampling rate was pretty low, but I don't think I got more than 5 samples off any one IMB.

As for failing on sampling, it seems my toon is blessed with an unnaturally low fail rate. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 10% for anything under CL60. Even Huurton pups and the dreaded kreetles fall into this range. They hardly ever agro on me.

I've gotten 4 in a row off an MR with relatively low stats. I've also failed 15 times in a row. Not a record, but it lends some proof that my MR sampling success is random.

Yea, I think the falicy is that everytime someone has a run of exceptional luck (good or bad), it is immediately attributed to the most recent patch. Since after every patch people have claimed that their mask scent/sampling/experimenting has gotten worse (this thread is a welcome exception to that trend), I'm surprised that we have any chance at all of hiding/sampling/experimenting since apparently it's gotten worse with every patch for the last year-and-a-half

I've gone on a couple sampling marathons since this last patch, and have had some runs where I was cursing up a blue storm, and other times when I was thanking my lucky stars, and I've the same goes for mask scent and experimentation. Nothing to see here... move along.

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PlainWhiteSocks wrote:
I've gotten 4 in a row off an MR with relatively low stats. I've also failed 15 times in a row. Not a record, but it lends some proof that my MR sampling success is random.

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Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 03-08-2005 10:00 AM

thx for the response arthur.

Grozzer Agoutt
Kauri
MBE/Sentinel