Bio Engineer Archive

Thread: Greeting and Questions from a Novice

Katharian
Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:13 pm
#1

First off welcome to the most extreme of the SWG crafting proffessions. for more info take a look at Kaommond or Dorelli's post they have a wonder web site for BioE's all set up. Included are FAQ's and recipes for pets. As for results on your tissuse and such there is another person here that has a wonderfull tissue calculator they made, however I dont remember how it is off hand.


hope that helps a bit cant do more as I'm at work



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Ojes
Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:24 pm
#2

The tissue calculator is in the stickies and was made by Lantyssa (of Starsider I think). I use it all the time - I learned quite a bit from that tool about the wrinkles that BEs have to deal with that old-school docs never had to worry about...



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JKoper
Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:12 am
#3



Greeting Folks, I hope this finds you well. This is my first post, so I beg forgiveness in advance for any omissions in format or protocol. Thank you.


I have been playing for a while and am now finishing my primary goal of making Master Doctor and Master Medic on my primary character. This has been an relatively enjoyable process, if drawn out. Now that this is in sight, I'm looking at new ways to enjoy the remaining skill points I have.


Recently when one of my closest game friends (a MBE/MCH) was drawn away by real life, our mutual friend a Master Chef was left without a current source for her tissue supplies. Since Bio Engineers gained the old medical crafting tree from Doctor with the CU, I figured it would be a fun challenge to learn this trade. So off I went...harvesting and crafting. I earned my Novice Bio Engneer tag about two weeks ago and promptly sat down to read.


Along with some truly amazing writing on FAQ's and a wonderfully responsive community. I found the process of taking hold of this craft by the horns a satisfying challenge. As of this moment I am concentrating on the second and fourth trees, Tissues and Medicines. OnceI have a firm grip on these I'll be beginning my work on the Creature and DNA trees.


With all of the great information, I'm still finding some questions remain unanswered, Or perhapsI missed them entirely. I would be most indebted to any advice that you might be able and willing to offer me.


  • First, regardng the Tissues line.Since I am aiming at alternating the Tissues and Medicines lines, I'm wondering what the new best Xp product might be now. The FAQ lists constrictor cloths to Tissues 1, but since those seem to be gone from my schematic listing, I was wondering if there were any better choices.


    • I have been making Multisacchride tissues to get a handle on the principles of stats and interactions in practice mode. But was unsure if I could be doing better.

    • I'm using Ornachek and those friendly entertainer folksfor aboost, but honestly, my friend needs better than I can produce at the moment, and I hate to leave her waiting. We've found hera source, but I feel like I'm dropping my end.

  • There was a post earier in the day regarding this topic, but the reponse was unable to give any feedback regarding the new Medical items. I had used those little Chemical Delay Release Mechanisms to make my way to Novice, but I wanted to learn more of the process. I honestly never spent much time crafting as a medic. I made my line off the CDRMs and wasn't all that thrilled to go back after I was done. But, they got me to Novice, with the junk I had laying around thehouse, so I can't complain too loudly.

  • As you have probably surmised, I'm not a long time crafter. But since I've never been a "Beat them into submission" combat type either. I'm looking forward to learning a profession that supports my own skills effectively. While I can't use a stim on another player, they can use it to keep themselves alive, thereby fufilling my goal as a Doctor: Keeping people alive!

  • In regards to medicine crafting itself. I'm beginning to get a handle on the idea ofthe sub compnents arecomprosed of, if only that. I'm wondering what advice you can give me on these.


    • Primarily, how drastically do they affect my final products? A reminder, that since I am still a Novice, I only have acess to Stim A & B's and only the handful of experimenttion points. I've started pressing them into power. That seems to be the concensus of the forum as far as Medicines go. Raw Power over Charges.

  • I'm just beginning my path.... I'm still nervous about the Pet Crafting process, but it is the kind of nerves you'd get as you reach the top of a rollercoaster and peer down. Once I've firmly understood the princples of the Tissue and Medicine lines, I'll look at starting to make pets....Who am I kidding I'll jump over as soon as I have a loose grip! :smileyvery-happyets look like the challenge of a lifetime and I'm eager to get started!


I thank you all for you advice and suggestions and look forward to a future of long and intersting conversations with you all!


Thank you.




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Ojes
Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:50 am
#4

Welcome to the BE forums - a generally helpful bunch (particularly for people like you who have apparently read some of the other posts before asking).


I share your sentiment on pet crafting. It scares the heck out of me. I can't get beyond the initial impression I got of it -nothing like any craftingyou have ever attempted in-game before. However, the meds and tissues are very well understood.


You should probably not worry about making competitive tissues for your friend until you get yourself 8 or 9 experimentation points. At that point, you will be able to fill the bonus bar of nearly any chef tissue you try. Concentrate on the crafting branch to get there. I think you are on the right track in that regard though. You could be in a big rush to get there and burn your clicking finger out making MNS or MSD in practice mode. You would learn nothing from the grind, but you would be able to make competitive products quicker. The best xp per resource med item is advanced biological effect controllers. But they requrie 2 planet-specific resources, so it can be hard to get enough at times unless you are willing to drop a couple harvesters and get your own (my personal recommendation).


Medical subs add to the final product on a 1 for 1 basis. For example, if you find a better Lok Wild Wheat and can increase your aBEC power by 5, then your stim Ds made with those will have 5 more power. That is not precisely true, but it works for most needs. There are actually fractions on the subcomponents power and charges that are used when assembled into a stim. For example, if you have aBEC with 56.4p, aCRDM 60.3, aLS 71.3 - your total power contributed by the subs will be 188 rather than the 187 that is displayed on the subcomponents themselves. That level of detail does not come into play until you hit the very top end of the scale, because the difference between a 1103 and 1104 power stim D isnt very much, but if those fractions help you get over the 1200 mark without using loot, that can be a nice feather in your cap.





while on Flurry, don't visit Ojes Yobe's Liquidation Vendors just 800M from Theed starport on Naboo (neg5219 3419) - cause they ain't there anymore! They are now exclusively located in Mos Athens Mall
JKoper
Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:06 am
#5

Good Morning, I wanted to thank you for your kind assistance!


I've downloaded the Tissue Calculator now and will be checking the website deeper when I get home tonight!! It looks like aamazing source ofinformation!


Work seems determined to get int the way of things...but I guess the bills must be paid! I'll be looking forward to trying out all I've learned this coming weekend and I'll let you know in the near future how I've progressed...


My many thanks,again!




_,,,--~~~~~~~~--,_
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,-‘ : : : :::: :::: :: : : : : :º ‘-, . . . . . . . . . .Napock Deelcho
. . . . . . . . . . . . .,-‘ :: : : :::: :::: :::: :::: : : :0 : ‘-, . . . . . .Mayor of Mos Maximus
. . . . . . . . . . . ,-‘ :: ::: :: : : :: :::: :::: :: : : : : :0 ‘-, . . . . . . . .
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. . . . . . . /,’,-‘ :: :: :: :: :: :: :: : ::_,-~~,_’-, ;; ;; ;; ;; | . . ."He's respawned;
. . . . . _/ :,’ :/ :: :: :: : : :: :: _,-‘/ : ,-‘;’-‘’’’’~-, ;; ;; ;;,’ . .It's a freaking MMORPG!
. . . ,-‘ / : : : : : : ,-‘’’ : : :,--‘’ : | /,-‘-‘--‘’’__,’’’ \ ;; ;,-‘ .He can't stay dead forever!"
. . . \ :/,, : : : _,-‘ --,,_ : : \ :\ ||/ /,-‘-‘x### ::\ \ ;;/ . . . . . . ~~Chuck Norris~~
\/ /---‘’’’ : \ #\ : :\ : : \ :\ \| | : (O##º : :/ /-‘'

Dorelli
Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:10 am
#6


I think that you will make a great asset to the BE community and welcome! I think it's great to take it one step at a time ... it can be overwhelming at first since they've crammed 3 diffrent (maybe even four different) crafting professions into BE


med and tissue crafting boggles my mind - the hunt for resources and the STRESS to keep up with chef and tailor demands? I can only admire ...


Basically, it's been asked a few times - what item gives the best xp ... i think we need to go systematically thru the entire BE repetoire and make sure SWGCraft is up to date for BE's and with the xp values given (not in practice mode). I'm happy to help with that ...


When you get ready for pet crafting ... yell- well after you read the FAQ's and try it ... I'm not sure if you are planning on being a master BE - pet crafting is more easily done with the full DNA sampling line ... !


And again .. welcome -- Dor





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Mavericke
Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:37 am
#7

whew... I've been on for over two years now and I have done several crafting proffesions like Architect, Artisan and Tailor... I think I'm taking a big leap here into the BioE world, I was just lookign around for more info and came across this thread, I dont know any of you but would like to say thanks for the help you have already given me I look forward to conversing over some of this stuff soon... Im not totally sure if I was blessed or cursed, but shortly after I started my grind on Novice BE a very good friend of mine decided to leave the game permanantly due to RL issues and his job, long story short I have now taken over his account... which just happens to be a newly mastered BioE. Im not sure if this is good beause I really wanted to experiment with the small stuff first... on the other hand I oculdnt pass up a free character with a full temp I was aiming for in the first place, heh... time will tell, I'm sure I'll be in here several times asking noob questions



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JKoper
Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:55 am
#8

Well folks,

This weekend was fun. Spent some time getting myself up to speed and made enough ABEC's to get myself up to 0/1/0/1 Went away for a day, so no more than that was possible. I'll be busy learning aboutmy new skills. If you'd all be interested I'll be keeping notes and let you all know as I get a clue!


Well, Take care and anyone down New Orleans way, Best luck!




_,,,--~~~~~~~~--,_
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,-‘ : : : :::: :::: :: : : : : :º ‘-, . . . . . . . . . .Napock Deelcho
. . . . . . . . . . . . .,-‘ :: : : :::: :::: :::: :::: : : :0 : ‘-, . . . . . .Mayor of Mos Maximus
. . . . . . . . . . . ,-‘ :: ::: :: : : :: :::: :::: :: : : : : :0 ‘-, . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . .,-‘ : :: :: :: :: :: : : : : : , : : :º :::: :::: ::’; . . . . . . . Morai Anov
. . . . . . . . .,-‘ / / : :: :: :: :: : : :::: :::-, ;; ;; ;; ;; ;; ;; ;\ . . . Master Droid Engineer of
. . . . . . . . /,-‘,’ :: : : : : : : : : :: :: :: : ‘-, ;; ;; ;; ;; ;; ;;| . . . . .F3 Droidwerka, Ltd.
. . . . . . . /,’,-‘ :: :: :: :: :: :: :: : ::_,-~~,_’-, ;; ;; ;; ;; | . . ."He's respawned;
. . . . . _/ :,’ :/ :: :: :: : : :: :: _,-‘/ : ,-‘;’-‘’’’’~-, ;; ;; ;;,’ . .It's a freaking MMORPG!
. . . ,-‘ / : : : : : : ,-‘’’ : : :,--‘’ : | /,-‘-‘--‘’’__,’’’ \ ;; ;,-‘ .He can't stay dead forever!"
. . . \ :/,, : : : _,-‘ --,,_ : : \ :\ ||/ /,-‘-‘x### ::\ \ ;;/ . . . . . . ~~Chuck Norris~~
\/ /---‘’’’ : \ #\ : :\ : : \ :\ \| | : (O##º : :/ /-‘'

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