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Thread: Mt. Squills?
Message Edited by GMANHNC on 05-27-2004 12:37 PM
Message Edited by GMANHNC on 05-29-2004 01:33 PM
Message Edited by GMANHNC on 06-01-2004 02:13 PM
You can try asking here if you like
http://swgbe.mmospy.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=2&sid=2c77f2f9ad20b6985dbc614d2d99acf5
GMANHNC wrote:
Any Idea's on how to get these in a higher lvl pet? I am thinking of trying MR MR MS MS MR all VHQ I tried it the SWGC Lab, but he only had avrg. samples for MS and no specials.
I'm assuming by "these" you mean a CL 70ish creature with blind and intimidate specials?
That's a tough one (but an interesting one... I'm heading to Dath myself tonight to get some MR and may give this a try :smileyhappy
. The biggest problem to me about this is that it will be very difficult to get these specialsand not sacrifice a ton on the damage side or on the resists side. I did a quick search on swgcreatures.com and there are no creatures over CL 40 that have this combo of specials.
I'd recommend using Merek Cavern Creeper as the specials "donor" because it has only vulnerability to cold and has higher damage than MS (plus it's on Endor so it's "one-stop-shopping" when you're getting other DNA there).
I might try for the first gen mixing some BMB or BMBQ with a VHQ sample of MCC in slot 5. Get a VHQ sample of that, then do something like MR MR BMBQ BMBQ 2nd gen sample.
Something along those lines. Only drawback is that I doubt you'll get more than 500 damage in the final creature but at least you should have great ham, great resists, and those two specials.
What I was planing was MR MR MS MS MR all VHQ except slot 5, my intent was to use AA in this one... In my reading, it seems that mind is taken if slot five is weaker. Also in my experience using MR DNA armor is easy to come by, so even though MS don't have it, it may still work. Also I find that slots with VHQ usually need less EXP pts used, so I will probably end up spending most on DMG, but I think I can get up to 500+ No problem. I made a nargalatch last night with just MR in slot 5 (MH in other 4) and got up to 580. SO I think I might be able to pull it off. We will see, let me know what you end up doing tonight, thanks!
Message Edited by GMANHNC on 05-27-2004 05:37 PM
Message Edited by GMANHNC on 05-27-2004 06:44 PM
Yea, please do post your results (template numbers and final CL) and I'll do the same. I think it's helpful to document MR combines in particular.
You listed 6 samples, lol, dunno how you'll pull that off 
But in my experience, over 2 MR samples in a combine and you'd better be damn careful how you use your experimentation points or you'll risk doing WAY over CL 70.
GMANHNC wrote:
ArthurDent
What I was planing was MR MR MR MS MS MR all VHQ except slot 5, my intent was to use AA in this one... In my reading, it seems that mind is taken if slot five is weaker. Also in my experience using MR DNA armor is easy to come by, so even though MS don't have it, it may still work. Also I find that slots with VHQ usually need less EXP pts used, so I will probably end up spending most on DMG, but I think I can get up to 500+ No problem. I made a nargalatch last night with just MR in slot 5 (MH in other 4) and got up to 580. SO I think I might be able to pull it off. We will see, let me know what you end up doing tonight, thanks!
Message Edited by GMANHNC on 05-27-2004 05:37 PM
I figure the MS will bring it down, I figure most don't combine with such low level stuff, cause it's kinda nuts. I am going to try AA in slot five then HQ, but no VHQ that will blow me away. I used 5 VHQ once I have a very nice LVL 85 doing 600+ DMG. He is for Sale if anyone is interested. LOL I will have to pawn him off on a MCH after JTLS is out some NOOB... just kidding I probably won't do that.
Hey also not sure about you guys, but depending on how many boxes I have already unlocked I am going to destroy my Chracter after Pub 10... and make the one I always wanted to be a JEDI... now that we know the ins and outs we should be able to grind up the charts pretty quick. Although I think I will just leave my sweet pets in deed form and tame when I get new Character cause will be too hard to find people to hold em till I get there.
Kevie wrote:
What was that?
Anyway Sorry Arthur, I was not able to get on last night... I hope to try tonight to at least get the MR DNA, don't know if I will get to ENDOR, what is the HAM like on the Carvern Creeper?
(CC= Cavern creeper X= blind special pet)
How about taking BMB,BMB,BMB,CC,X
If kinetic is under 60% and/or no armor run it
BMB,BMB,BMB,Clone,Clone
Do that until the kinetic is 60% and it has armor
Then combine it with MR,MR,Clone,Clone,MR
The trick would be to hope the special 1 x-fers from the clone to the MR and that the CL doesnt jump CL70
Seems like a lot of work though... I would bet I could make two CL35 that will have a higher combined HAM and damage then whatever CL70 any BE could make.
Plus you can put more specials on them... if you dont have any combat yet wish to kill stuff in PvE you could have one with blind/intimidate and the other with S. Poison/intimidate
Vezek
SomeUser wrote:(CC= Cavern creeper X= blind special pet)
How about taking BMB,BMB,BMB,CC,X
If kinetic is under 60% and/or no armor run it
BMB,BMB,BMB,Clone,Clone
Do that until the kinetic is 60% and it has armor
Then combine it with MR,MR,Clone,Clone,MR
The trick would be to hope the special 1 x-fers from the clone to the MR and that the CL doesnt jump CL70
Seems like a lot of work though... I would bet I could make two CL35 that will have a higher combined HAM and damage then whatever CL70 any BE could make.
Plus you can put more specials on them... if you dont have any combat yet wish to kill stuff in PvE you could have one with blind/intimidate and the other with S. Poison/intimidate
That is a good point
Right now I am running with a 34 & 35, the 34 is a mT. Squill, and the 35 I made has 11k ham armor 60 kinetic, and Stun in both slots (don't ask me how that happened) I do pretty well with these, I am looking to replace the squill with a higher ham/ armor/ DMG pet, but just wanted to try making a big dog with this stuff. Just to see if I could.
GMANHNC wrote:
Kevie wrote:
What was that?
Anyway Sorry Arthur, I was not able to get on last night... I hope to try tonight to at least get the MR DNA, don't know if I will get to ENDOR, what is the HAM like on the Carvern Creeper?
what the hell? that's like the third time that's happened........ you should have seen where it triple posted me once and the first two posts were just copies of what other people had posted..... from different threads!
i think lithium hates me 
anyways as to what i put down....... it was something to the effect of "i thought blind lowered accuracy and intimidate lowered damage and stun was a weaker version of each in one"
but i think i also read somewhere that the devs never gave any real statement as to what they really do
someone help me out here lol
I too am very interested in how this turns out for you. However, why not use quenker relic reaper insted of merek cavern creeper and "x"? The quenker has has special protection to kinetic and energy at 55% insted of only kinetic at 40%. The rest of the stats are about the same, 11.5k ham, vuln to cold, 30% effective to everything else, and blind/intimidate specials.I bought two similar to this cl 35 and 31. I'm not sure what recipe was used, they have light armor, and 46% to kinetic and energy. I'm very interested to see if you can do better through cloning.
Antimony