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Thread: Pet PvE and PvP damage test results

Joker9125
Tue Dec 28, 2004 3:20 pm
#1









OkI did some PvP anround cnet against some unarmored people then moved on to some yard trash with no resists and recorded the damage my pets were doing. Here are the results


Jinx vs. Pistoleer

Min-Max damage 410-420


Damage done to pistoleer with pistol equipped

416

419

240


Average

358.333333333

Difference between highest and lowest damage.

179


Me (rifleman) vs Giant Peko Peko (I about died with i saw it! I want one!!)

Min-Max damage 210-220


damage done to me without rifle equipped

214

156

138


Average

169.33333333333

Difference between highest and lowest damage.

76


with rifle equipped

192

164

156


Average

170.6666666666666

Difference between highest and lowest damage.

36



Me vs Graul Mauler (not fully grown)

Min-Max damage 186-204


damage done to me with a rifle equipped

110

195

146


Average

150.3333333333

Difference between highest and lowest damage.

85



For this next part I got my pet buffed by a doc to see if it woulod make any difference. It didnt.


Sam (buffed)vs Fencer

Min-Max damage 170-180


damage done to fencer unarmed

102

106

102

120

106


Average

107.2

Difference between highest and lowest damage.

18


Sam (buffed) vs Meatlump

142

156


Average

149

Difference between highest and lowest damage.

14


Sam (buffed) vs Corillian butterfly

107

128

163

124


Average

130.5

Difference between highest and lowest damage.

56



Sam (unbuffed) vs. Gubbur

171

100


Average

135.5

Difference between highest and lowest damage.

71


Sam (unbuffed) vs. Durni

120

103
162


Average

128.33333333333333

Difference between highest and lowest damage.

59


This simply can not be "working as intended"


Here is the url to our discussion


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=creature_handler&message.id=213392


Ok so now comes my question for you BE's is about the seemingly completely random damage that pets do. As you can see pets rarely do even there minimum damage in pve or pvp and the difference in the damage they do between hits seems to have nothing to do with the min-max damage. AsI said in the CH fourm I am both bothered and intrigued by this. I kinda have a half @$$ed theory that this could be linked to a DNA stator simply just a bug. Can any of you offer any explination for this?



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Sinhero
Wed Dec 29, 2004 2:43 am
#2

No idea. Just wondering if you also sent some BE-pets into the field? The names of your pets indicate they're tamed wild creatures. Also the To-Hit value of the pets, equipped armor and defense skills of opponents might be of interest here.


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Master Bio-Engineer - Infinity

Joker9125
Wed Dec 29, 2004 3:09 am
#3

All pets used were BE creations and ill post the to hit tomorrow when i get up. No armor was worn during any of this testing.



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ArthurDentOnBria
Wed Dec 29, 2004 12:37 pm
#4



how did you go about compiling those damage figures? I ask because damage is often difficult to track accurately with all kinds of numbers flying around the screen, especially on Cnet with all the spam.


Things that come to mind that might explain some of your findings: perhaps some of the people involved had one or more pieces of armor on after all that wasn't so obvious(a glove, a bracer, a boot etc.). Did they have any food in their system? How about various ranged or melee damage mitigation skills? Did the low damage hits perhaps correspond with a pet using a special attack? how about a ranged attack? Were they fighting back against the pet? Did the pet perhaps have any state effects on it for part of the battle?


For a more controlled experiment: I think as a baseline I'd recommend sicking your pet on some buck nekkid artisan who has no combat skills (although I could just imagine that conversation... "would you please take off all your clothes and let my pet eat you? If so I'll give you a carrot" rofl), then progress from there and see how various amounts of melee defense (only should effect hit % I believe) and damage mitigation effect your results. And of course it is vital that nothing like skill tapes, food, armor pieces etc are allowed to affect results. It would also be easier if you used a pet that had no special attacks and no ranged attack.

Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 12-29-2004 11:41 AM



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Joker9125
Wed Dec 29, 2004 5:18 pm
#5


No armor at all was worn.I thought it could be because of def modifiers but when i had my pet attack yard trash and got the same results it got me thinking that something might be bugged. And I got these results by monitoring the combat log while watching the floaty numbers. I did this at a dead time while there was no one dueling around cnet so the only thing in the log would be the stuff from my tests. If any of you BEs are interested in helping me do some further testing on this ill be glad to do whatever i can to assist inluding making a new character on another galaxy. I am on valcyn btw my in game name is velitham (i hope i spelled that right)

Message Edited by Joker9125 on 12-29-2004 04:19 PM



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Hylidex
Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:13 am
#6






ArthurDentOnBria wrote:



For a more controlled experiment: I think as a baseline I'd recommend sicking your pet on some buck nekkid artisan who has no combat skills (although I could just imagine that conversation... "would you please take off all your clothes and let my pet eat you? If so I'll give you a carrot" rofl),




Laughing so hard I can hardly see my screen. This was such a GREAT visual image.



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