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Thread: Question for you experienced BEs

meediummshoww
Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:28 am
#1


I'm working toward my master CH, and I'm particular to using cats as my pets. My question is; what are your recommendations for the best PVE cat? Looking for the usual high HAM, good resists.



Meediummshoww Wookie Jedi - Mayor of Talath, Rori
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Seraphym14
Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:07 am
#2

Are you talking about PVE cats that you tame in the wild? Or are you asking about BE made cats?

If it's BE made cats, it's a moot question, really. The DNA template (which carries the HAM/Stat characteristics is a separate part of the creature creation process and the "skin" (what a pet looks like) is the "cover". To my knowledge, the only affect a skin has ever been referred to having is speed (movement) and the cat "skins" are somewhat faster then other "skins".



Ziki
meediummshoww
Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:14 am
#3

BE made cats is what I was thinking.



Meediummshoww Wookie Jedi - Mayor of Talath, Rori
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Seraphym14
Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:32 am
#4

Well, as I said, the "cat" is just a "skin". From what I've read, the Razor Cat or the Gurrcat are the fastest land speed "skins".

Saying you want High HAM/High Resists doesn't help - everyone says that. Everyone. Honestly, I don't know any BE who willingly makes low HAM/low resist creatures except for junk mounts... =)

You don't mention what CL you are capable of controlling either. Stats will be affected by the CL of the creature.



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meediummshoww
Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:39 am
#5

currently i can control low 30 lvl creaturres. i have lvl 29 gurrcat with 50% kinetic and 60% energy resists. i saw him on the bazaar for 6K so i picked him up. i'm assuming he's a BE pet, is there a way to tell for sure? i'm at work and can't remember his HAM off of the top of my head. point taken about the HAM/resist comment. It is pretty stupid when I go back and read it, hehe.





Meediummshoww Wookie Jedi - Mayor of Talath, Rori
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Seraphym14
Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:48 am
#6

If it's on the bazaar, it's *only* a BE pet. I.e., Creature Handlers can not turn wild animals into deeds. All BE creatures start out as deeds (before taming) - like a droid or a speederbike and can also be traded the same as a droid.

So... you are looking for something in the CL 28-30 range in a cat skin. Lt. Armor? Damage? You say PVE - typically that means high Health (not HAM, HAM means Health, Action, Mind), high-end kinetic resists 45-60% and between 190-300 damage range.

I see you are on Tempest - you might check the stickied FAFAQ for the link to the listing of BE's by server and send one of them an email. The best I can do is help you figure out what you should ask for (since I'm not on Tempest) and what is reasonable to expect. =)



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Arg0nus
Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:55 am
#7






meediummshoww wrote:


I'm working toward my master CH, and I'm particular to using cats as my pets. My question is; what are your recommendations for the best PVE cat? Looking for the usual high HAM, good resists.





BE's on Tempest


There are some. And the ones I know will do custom order pets...but since the process to create specific pets can be tedious (I was a master BE for a while) they may charge you extra for it. Depends on the BE.


Check with a BE named Feliga...he's on almost every day, and if you can catch him online, Dittertain...







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meediummshoww
Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:59 am
#8






Seraphym14 wrote:
If it's on the bazaar, it's *only* a BE pet. I.e., Creature Handlers can not turn wild animals into deeds. All BE creatures start out as deeds (before taming) - like a droid or a speederbike and can also be traded the same as a droid.

So... you are looking for something in the CL 28-30 range in a cat skin. Lt. Armor? Damage? You say PVE - typically that means high Health (not HAM, HAM means Health, Action, Mind), high-end kinetic resists 45-60% and between 190-300 damage range.

I see you are on Tempest - you might check the stickied FAFAQ for the link to the listing of BE's by server and send one of them an email. The best I can do is help you figure out what you should ask for (since I'm not on Tempest) and what is reasonable to expect. =)






well, i don't pvp at all, and have no real plans to in the future. so things built into pets with pvp in mind aren't of a lot of use to me.


Lt. Armour would be a plus, damage in the high 200s to low 300s would be fine. I'm halfway to TKM, so I don't need a lot of extra damage, just the aggro's focused on something other than me. As far as the high health as opposed to high HAM... i agree with what you say about the high health comment as that's the typical damage type, but by doing that, am I going to cripple the action and mind stats? the kinetic resist is a definite, as well as blast and/or energy. my gurrcat has 50% kinetic and 60% energy.


My guild does have a master BE or two, but like you said, i want to ask them for something particular, not just a general make me a pet question. I'll use my time at work for questions like that, hehe.




Meediummshoww Wookie Jedi - Mayor of Talath, Rori
Boomstick - Master Structures Trader (vendor 3629 3475 Talath, Rori)
meediummshoww
Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:00 am
#9






Arg0nus wrote:





meediummshoww wrote:


I'm working toward my master CH, and I'm particular to using cats as my pets. My question is; what are your recommendations for the best PVE cat? Looking for the usual high HAM, good resists.





BE's on Tempest


There are some. And the ones I know will do custom order pets...but since the process to create specific pets can be tedious (I was a master BE for a while) they may charge you extra for it. Depends on the BE.


Check with a BE named Feliga...he's on almost every day, and if you can catch him online, Dittertain...










ok, thanks.



Meediummshoww Wookie Jedi - Mayor of Talath, Rori
Boomstick - Master Structures Trader (vendor 3629 3475 Talath, Rori)
Seraphym14
Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:23 am
#10

well, i don't pvp at all, and have no real plans to in the future. so things built into pets with pvp in mind aren't of a lot of use to me.

Lt. Armour would be a plus, damage in the high 200s to low 300s would be fine. I'm halfway to TKM, so I don't need a lot of extra damage, just the aggro's focused on something other than me. As far as the high health as opposed to high HAM... i agree with what you say about the high health comment as that's the typical damage type, but by doing that, am I going to cripple the action and mind stats? the kinetic resist is a definite, as well as blast and/or energy. my gurrcat has 50% kinetic and 60% energy.

My guild does have a master BE or two, but like you said, i want to ask them for something particular, not just a general make me a pet question. I'll use my time at work for questions like that, hehe.


PVP pets are typically the ones with more resists, hon. If you are PVE'ing critters - energy/blast is not a resist needed. If you are PVE'ing NCP's, then you should consider the pet as a PVP style critter.

Action/Mind are more affected by players then they are by other critters. Typically, PVE targets health and kinetic. Lt. Armor deflects how much damage your pet takes, like your armor does for you. I've never had a pet incapacitated for it's mind level in PVE.

So... Let's look over your "shopping" list:

1. Cat Skin
2. CL 28-30
3. Between 9-10K Health
4. 45-60 Kinetic
5. Some energy/blast resists? Still want that?
6. Damage between 250 and 350.

Do you care about specials? Since you have the time during the day, you should check swgcreatures.com and plug in some of the info you are looking for and see what specials are out there. Without looking myself, I'd probably go for some Toxic Battle Lord/Bark Mite Burrower/Frenzied Graul and pull down the CL in generations.



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meediummshoww
Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:56 am
#11








PVP pets are typically the ones with more resists, hon. If you are PVE'ing critters - energy/blast is not a resist needed. If you are PVE'ing NCP's, then you should consider the pet as a PVP style critter.


I do PVE NPC's so I guess the PVP type things do matter, hehe.



Action/Mind are more affected by players then they are by other critters. Typically, PVE targets health and kinetic. Lt. Armor deflects how much damage your pet takes, like your armor does for you. I've never had a pet incapacitated for it's mind level in PVE.

So... Let's look over your "shopping" list:

1. Cat Skin yup, so gurrcat or razorcat?
2. CL 28-30 yup
3. Between 9-10K Health yup
4. 45-60 Kinetic yup
5. Some energy/blast resists? Still want that? yup
6. Damage between 250 and 350. yup

Do you care about specials? Since you have the time during the day, you should check swgcreatures.com and plug in some of the info you are looking for and see what specials are out there. Without looking myself, I'd probably go for some Toxic Battle Lord/Bark Mite Burrower/Frenzied Graul and pull down the CL in generations.


The poison strike from the TMBL looks good... I'm on SWGcreatures now, browsing.










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