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trying to start making pet stims to sell . One of the components is a liquid suspension , can i use advanced ones to get a better stim , is it worth the trouble getting the resources?

I haven't used non-advanced liquid suspensions in a long time but the difference between using basic and advanced in your pet stims is ca. 125 points of effectiveness. You also want to use Advanced BECs. I generally don't use Advanced CRDMs because it is only a 40 or so point difference and I don't have hte Herbivore Meat to throw around like that.

Do NOT use advanced components in Vitality Packs, however. The components make no difference whatsoever in those.

guess ill have to try and get resources for advanced components

I wouldn't bother getting them myself unless your also a doctor. The extra 5 experimentation point gotten by doctors who have master their chem line makes a huge difference. Find someone like a guild doctor to make them for you or from whom you can buy them.

Or you could gather the resources yourself and have your neighborhood doctor make a fully experimented Schematic for you. Throw it in your own Factory and churn them out. Heck, you can make anything like this (well.... you know what I mean).

Rock-o
(wanderhome)

I use -

Adv. Liq suspension - 142
Adv. Chem release - 63
Adv. Bio - range from 11/22 - 17/17
with current dathomir wild meat OQ and PE are both over 900 on bloodfin right now
and Vertex Gemstone - all stats are over 900 except for Malleability.

and produce

Pet stim A's - 33charges/ 375- 468 depending on success rates on craft and experimentation
Pet Stim B's - 29 - 33 charges/573 - 616 depending on success rates.

Advanced components are made by a master doc, one of the best on the server as a matter of fact. Best thing to do is find a doc who needs meat. Go out and get them for him and likely he/she will help you with your advanced components.

Okele: Those final totals are awfully low for those strong components. I would have expected way into the 700-800s on Bs using that stuff. I get low to mid 600s with Basic CRDMs and 125 LS's. What is your experimentation?

And I don't suggest trying to use meat for your organics. Every month there is some organic that will appear in the galaxy that will give you 950+ OQ and PE, when it does then drop a couple of large flora farms on it and go to town. Use easy-to-collect resources whenever possible.

I always use ALS for my stuff. That seems to affect the power the most.

Usually I use 125 power ALS with 45 power Adv Chem.

Now if I use an ABEC with say 17/17 stats, I get a Pet stim C to be usually 30c 1050 power.

If I use a BEC with say 7/7 stats, I get a pet C to be 20c with 1020 stats.

(Both using the same insect meat and fiberplast).

I tend to slack on the ABEC as they take 2 to make one stim, so I've been going for the reduced charge ones and adjusting my price accordingly.

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Scorus wrote:
Okele: Those final totals are awfully low for those strong components. I would have expected way into the 700-800s on Bs using that stuff. I get low to mid 600s with Basic CRDMs and 125 LS's. What is your experimentation?

And I don't suggest trying to use meat for your organics. Every month there is some organic that will appear in the galaxy that will give you 950+ OQ and PE, when it does then drop a couple of large flora farms on it and go to town. Use easy-to-collect resources whenever possible.

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My experimentation is only +20, with Engineering Tech 1. Ive been mainly concentrating on DNA sampling, Im working through DNA 4 now. I went to tissue engineering 2 because my A's were pretty decent compared to what most people are making on my server. I figured if I'm going to do this profession I might as well make a little cash making some pet stims.

Rather than bumping an old thread for my comments on advanced vs normal med subcomponents... just check out the stickied FAQ. You'll find my rationale / findings on the different components.

thanks for all your help , im buying the components from a master doctor , means its costing me about 900 to make a stim C though

900 cred per stim C isn't bad. You could probably sell a good Stim C for3k or more. Mine are coming out about 30 charge, 1058 power from using Master Doc experiment Adv components.