Bio Engineer Archive

I just started playing around with tissues on Valcyn. Most everything I make is within the +13-15 range. Asking around in game to both tailors and BE's I couldn't really lock down a price for these things.

Answers I got:

15cr per skill bonus (i.e. +15 = 15*15 = 225)
100cr per skill bonus (i.e. +15 = 15*100 = 1500)
10cu per resource (i.e. 80 resources = 80*10 = 800)
1.4-2k per tissue (forums)

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After giving some thought to the matter I can see several things to take into consideration when pricing any particular item:

Rarity of the resources for a tissue - Milk, eggs, mollusk

Variety needed for a tissue - 'wild/reptile/herb/insect' meat vs. creature food. Now I have to keep good quality herb meat, wild meat, reptile meat, insect meat, carnivore meat and another big batch for 'creature food' so I don't waste the specific stuff

Number of resources needed for tissue - 20? 40? 80?

Demand for the tissue - chef foods...not likely, bleed defense..yea

Price that tailors are charging for BE clothing

The simple fact that we cannot stick a harvestor on the gound and get what we need to craft like 'most' crafters

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After getting a headache thinking about it I came up with this:

4k per tissue,
2-3k per tissue to guildie tailors,
1k per tissue if buyer provides the resources,

(Exception given to items requiring milk, mollusk and eggs)

Why?

4k - because a crate of 25 (the default crates size that our factories spit out) ends up being 100k which is a nice round number. Also, I think it takes 2 of these guys to fit in higher end clothing items. That will make 12 clothing items with the bonus and I suspect each item will cost between 10-20k.

2-3k - because I believe guildies should get a discount but I'm under no delusions about how much they'll make off the items (and they probably helped provide some of the resources)

1k - because even though they provided the resources it was we who had to grind through 72k (minimum) creature food and incapped 1 billion times sampling to get here and we deserve something for every button click we make.

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So, Hsaza, why are you bothering the rest of us Valcyn BE's with this? Well, because I need something from you.

1. If at all possible I think we need to agree on a price...obviously we are all competitors but, at least for the moment, there are MANY more tailors around than BE's.....so, as long as our price is fair and we stick to it I think we can all work together on tissues...especially given the nature of the things....12 is about as low as you can possibly make with decent resources and a good or better success. 17 is about the max. My products aren't going to be much better or worse than yours or vice versa. I'm not suggesting at all that we rip off tailors because we can. I simply think we should see the benefit of grinding through a broken class that many don't even know about!

2. If you think my price or my reasonings are crazy let me know. I've gotten a lot support from guildies (it's a samll guild, though) and I've done a lot of supporting myself. That makes me think I have a pretty average grasp on how difficult it is to attain the quality/quantity of resources we need. However, I could be missing any number of variables.

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If you aren't on Valcyn I could certainly use objective feed back from you as well...it will just be very valuable to get input from people on my own server who may know the market already as well as resource availability.

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Feedback?

I think those prices are fine. I was selling +12 tissues for 3k a tissue without a problem but I don't think 4k is asking too much for something that is going to earn them far more than that.

Hsaza...you're a punk that doesn't deserve to get Master BE...lol

Torez (aka Hsaza's little meat whore)

P.S. I agree with ya on the subject...you're being very reasonable.